Panto_Villan Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Lost one of my aunts to cancer at a similar age about a decade back, she also had a young family. Really horrible situation for everyone involved, turned so many lives upside down. As controversial as this opinion will be on VT, I hope the royals don’t have to go through that too. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bickster Posted March 22 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted March 22 4 minutes ago, villa4europe said: But why is there even a public side? The media and the public have effectively hounded a statement over cancer out of them because there is a demand to always be told everything because we live in a world where Z listers exist because they are willing to do just that so everyone else should too It's shameful The Royal Family took it upon themselves many decades ago to turn themselves into a public soap opera. If they had been honest in the first place none of the speculation would have happened and it would have played completely differently. It was as ever all about image 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa4europe Posted March 22 Popular Post Share Posted March 22 Just now, bickster said: The Royal Family took it upon themselves many decades ago to turn themselves into a public soap opera. If they had been honest in the first place none of the speculation would have happened and it would have played completely differently. It was as ever all about image Be honest with what though? Her cancer, because we have a right to know? I have a gripe with that because we really don't, they don't have to tell us this Villa is the same, you read the on topic threads and people demand to know stuff and be kept in the loop in a way that's utterly bizarre to me 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 It feels like at the current rate of people of seemingly all ages and backgrounds getting cancer, everybody in the world will have it within a decade. Something ain’t right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 22 Moderator Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Be honest with what though? Her cancer, because we have a right to know? I have a gripe with that because we really don't, they don't have to tell us this Villa is the same, you read the on topic threads and people demand to know stuff and be kept in the loop in a way that's utterly bizarre to me Of course they don’t have to, they opt to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 4 minutes ago, bickster said: Of course they don’t have to, they opt to My argument is that they opted not to, they've been forced to And that's **** shite 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 22 Moderator Share Posted March 22 Just now, villa4europe said: My argument is that they opted not to, they've been forced to And that's **** shite Ah no, they opted to this time and every time. Once you start with the media game, there’s no going back. They made themselves public property, they changed the game themselves, they courted it. It is all about the optics and approval ratings so they can justify their drain on the public purse. I feel extremely sorry that she has cancer as I would with anyone else but the media game they play, they have to expect when they are bad at it, that it goes tits up 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted March 22 VT Supporter Share Posted March 22 It's the downside of being rich and famous. There is always going to be a media feeding frenzy. They had to go public with it eventually, but by delaying doing so, they made things much worse, what with conspiracy theories, etc. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 22 Moderator Share Posted March 22 Compare and contrast the King going into the same hospital at the same time and the country is told he has cancer, all he’s had since is sympathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 22 Author Share Posted March 22 49 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: They’ve handled the public side of it so badly though. Clearly the media knew what was up and backed the Royals into a corner where they had to be honest about what was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 22 Moderator Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, Genie said: Clearly the media knew what was up Definitely, two of my daughter's journalist friends told her weeks ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, bickster said: Ah no, they opted to this time and every time. Once you start with the media game, there’s no going back. They made themselves public property, they changed the game themselves, they courted it. It is all about the optics and approval ratings so they can justify their drain on the public purse. I feel extremely sorry that she has cancer as I would with anyone else but the media game they play, they have to expect when they are bad at it, that it goes tits up I think you’re perhaps mistaking the way things are for the way they should be. Even someone that actively courts publicity is entitled to a certain degree of privacy, no? I feel like potentially life-threatening illness is up there with sexuality in terms of things that people are entitled to keep to themselves. 4 minutes ago, bickster said: Compare and contrast the King going into the same hospital at the same time and the country is told he has cancer, all he’s had since is sympathy That’s certainly a good way to handle it, but it might not be so simple to do when there’s young kids involved. They might want to give the kids some time to come to terms with it before going to school with literally everyone else knowing your mum might be about to die (perhaps why the news was released after school on a Friday), etc. Clearly it could have been handled much better overall, but I’m not sure the situation is as cut and dried as it was with Charles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sidcow Posted March 22 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 22 Holy shit. William is having a torrid time of it. Regardless of your thoughts on the Royal family this is a family dealing with TWO lots of cancer at the same time. Just horrible and my thoughts go out to them. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Well this was odd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Panto_Villan said: Lost one of my aunts to cancer at a similar age about a decade back, she also had a young family. Really horrible situation for everyone involved, turned so many lives upside down. As controversial as this opinion will be on VT, I hope the royals don’t have to go through that too. Not sure why thats controversial. Whatever anyones opinions on the royals, i highly doubt anyone on here would want anyone to go through cancer, royal or not 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted March 22 VT Supporter Share Posted March 22 (edited) 29 minutes ago, sidcow said: Holy shit. William is having a torrid time of it. Regardless of your thoughts on the Royal family this is a family dealing with TWO lots of cancer at the same time. Just horrible and my thoughts go out to them. I've seen that and it is depressing. When I was based in London for a bit, I put up my mate and his girlfriend in my flat so that he could get specialist care there as they couldn't afford to commute up or book hotels (I didn't tell the landlord). She saw him through it in Hammersmith whilst he was in overnight for near enough a month and I let her have the room whilst I slummed it on the sofa. They got back home to Cardiff after, only to find that she herself had been diagnosed with breast cancer. I went to see them after and it was so very sad. He obviously wasn't very well at all and she was trying to keep it together. He passed away soon after but she made a full recovery and is now doing well. Edited March 22 by trekka 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AndyM3000 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 They love a tradition so I think it's safe to say we are locked in as the club of the Royal Family now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Surprised William is out watching football what with Kate only being dead a few weeks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) 11 hours ago, tonyh29 said: Surprised William is out watching football what with Kate only being dead a few weeks On the contrary, he's finally got a free pass. She was probably nagging him to waste his weekends going to family functions and other mundane shit. He'll be at all the aways and everything now. Edited April 12 by Wainy316 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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