Ratings & Reactions: Arsenal v Villa

[maqroll]

Guys, come back in off the ledge, it's still early days. We knew it would be a difficult adjustment. This is new for the players and manager alike. Smith has showed us his acumen, we need to show him some patience. The goal was always to stay up. 17th place is good enough for me, and it is achievable. So let's turn the page on this one and not create too much negativity because the team will notice and the pressure will build. Have faith that Dean is smart enough to see the project over the finish line in May. Plenty of time.

 

[Zhan_Zhuang]

So I've just read statistically Arsenal are the best team in PL history playing with ten men!

We must be the worst playing against ten men  

[AVTuco]

14 minutes ago, gurru991 said:

They are shit defensively but their offence  is brilliant. Once you sit back and allow them to come at you most teams in the league will struggle against them. 

Good choice then to sit back and let them come at you.

[screwdriver]

reminded me of the game we lost 3-2 in about 2011 cup match i think

we were bossing it aswell then

when van persie was coming off the bench to change the game.

Well done Smith you've turned into Alex Mcleish

[AVTuco]

6 minutes ago, PaulC said:

Dissapointing to again surrender a lead late on in North London. I didn't see it but surely there must be positives to take out of the game. 

Lucky you, I wish I didn't either.

The only positive is that it's Sunday evening, so my weekend wasn't ruined.

Edited September 22, 2019 by AVTuco

[TRO]

The problem is we can't defend outside of the back 4.......The midfield and forwards need a defensive side to their game in order to see a game out and keep some kind of control on the game.

If we keep conceding territory like we do.....this is what happens.

I didn't even see the game.....but I don't have to, I see the traits every match.

The problem right now is games like this are all too predictable......someone in the pub said to me " we are 1-2 up and they are down to 10 men, but,you don't look happy, I said the game is not over yet, before i could get my breath it was 2-2 and the 3-2.

We simply don't (as a group)  have the ability to hang on, nullify or negate call it what you will......Norwich and Sheff Utd on the surface do not have better players, but they can hold out and secure points.

Something is just not right with us.

Edited September 22, 2019 by TRO

[screwdriver]

on a positive note you can look at the first half.  perfectly executed game plan. even 11v11 Villa bossed it. could of had more goals

[osmark86]

Can we rename this thread to "Beratings & Overreactions"?

[TheStagMan]

I think there is something wrong with my phone. I tried to get onto Villatalk to see reactions to the game, but clearly it has redirected me to facebook. 

Get a grip people.

Edited September 22, 2019 by TheStagMan

[Delphinho123]

1 minute ago, osmark86 said:

Can we rename this thread to "Beratings & Overreactions"?

We’re in the bottom 3 mate, but yeh, why not! 

[Blasterpocket68]

7 minutes ago, screwdriver said:

reminded me of the game we lost 3-2 in about 2011 cup match i think

we were bossing it aswell then

when van persie was coming off the bench to change the game.

Well done Smith you've turned into Alex Mcleish

6 games in - Were all disappointed but to post that even in jest ! Shocking!

[osmark86]

Just now, Delphinho123 said:

We’re in the bottom 3 mate, but yeh, why not! 

I know and I'm not happy about that either. But I'm also not throwing in the towel just yet.

[Delphinho123]

Just now, osmark86 said:

I know and I'm not happy about that either. But I'm also not throwing in the towel just yet.

Throwing in the towel? What are you talking about?

People are unhappy and rightly so. No one has given up, it’s just blatantly obvious we’ll do very well to stay up this season.

We’re poor. In exactly the same areas we were poor last season. It’s frustrating.

We’ll probably go down but no one is surrendering.

[BigJim]

I’ll be honest and admit I was expecting to lose by at least 3 clear goals and I have to say I was pretty pleased with that performance, first half at least. People going on about how poor Arsenal are, please give us some credit for putting them on the back foot for decent periods of the game.

And before complaining about substitutions please consider the quality of the players we had on the bench. Lansbury and Hourihane for McGinn and Marvelous, had they come on earlier, would have kept Arsenal out? Do me a favour.

The one big message I think the coaches need to get across is this: it’s all good and fine keeping your head and trying to play neatly out of defence in the early stages of the game when you’ve got plenty of energy and time to put things right if you screw up.  But later in the game when you’re under the cosh, just blast it into the stands ffs.

[Davkaus]

17 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said:

So I've just read statistically Arsenal are the best team in PL history playing with ten men!

We must be the worst playing against ten men  

If you only watch Aston Villa:

• Playing with a one man advantage is really hard. the other team dig in.
• Playing a man down is impossible, how can we compete with fewer players?
• Corners may as well be goal kicks to the other team.
• Throw ins are pointless.

[screwdriver]

another positive grealish was sensational for the 2nd goal. picked it up in the same area as that amazing goal against rotherham.

5 players balls deep up his trumpet. put it on a plate for the brazillian ornament.

[Stockport_Villain]

Well that was frustrating and disappointing. Villa in the Premier League.

[romavillan]

Er, some seriously warped responses to that game. 

We were beating Arsenal at their place when it was still 11 v 11. We did not look like we weren't competitive with a team that is consistently in contention for the Champions League places. 

We made some horrible mistakes at the back, we committed suicide. Smith was screaming at them before the 2-2 to get up the pitch and not sit so deep. We need to improve some things but today was a free hit, we nearly knocked it out the park but ended up missing by our own stupid fault.

Not a reason to doubt Smith, or the players to any great degree. You can see there's a team in there, we have a good way of playing and for the most part it works. We've shown it in patches against very good sides. Keep the faith, we'll be alright.

[TRO]

50 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said:

Yep. I knew it would happen so I switched off around 70 min mark. 

What this club always and I mean ALWAYS does are two things:

1) invite unecessary pressure by laying deep. There's no reason to do it normally, unless the team is so knackered you aren't able to run. We do it simply because we lose our bollocks the second we are in a lead. The AVFC loser mentality 100%. Deano hasn't looked into that one bit. 

2) Never use subs correctly. Wesley did **** all the second half except a tap in, which meant we had nobody to relieve pressure. Davis should have come on right away. Then you got 2-3 others who clearly were breating out their arses.

We needed that win. 

We have not been good enough for years without the ball.....I don't see much has changed in that aspect....we struggled in the championship with certain teams, who was combative.

Its great to see the team with the ball and all the fire works that go with it but you have to be able to defend, keep your shape and composure and win the battles, to go again.....you also have to press and take the game to the opposition, we struggle with all that.

We play in " Moments " to get a win/result....but we can't dominate or contain a game.

Edited September 22, 2019 by TRO

[Davkaus]

Just now, romavillan said:

You can see there's a team in there, we have a good way of playing and for the most part it works. We've shown it in patches against very good sides. Keep the faith, we'll be alright.

How many games through the season can you say that, before wondering if we're a bit shit.

"We played ok", "we were unlucky". When you constantly feel like you were unlucky, maybe it's not luck.

We're a 6th of the way through the season. It's becoming a significant amount of the way through the league. 6/38, and we have 4 points, after having a 1 man advantage for significant portions of 2 of those games.