sidcow Posted March 12, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I hate short corners. Always have. You drag your entire team into the oppositions box and you decide not to whip the ball in. Just bonkers. The odd one is ok for variation is ok, but not the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, sidcow said: The odd one is ok for variation is ok, but not the majority. Not for me. There's an old Norwegian national coach Egil Olsen (had a brief stint at Wimbledon). He's all about statistics. He always had his team play very direct and hoofball'esque football. He had an argument I remember that to score goals you see better results if you get the ball into the oppositions box. The end. It's a simple way of looking at it, but in terms of corners I completely agree. Then there's the fact that short corners often makes you very at risk for counter attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 From last year but still good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Yesterday, it felt like every time we had a corner we played it short quickly and I keep wondering when the last time that worked out for us was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Villaphan04 said: Yesterday, it felt like every time we had a corner we played it short quickly and I keep wondering when the last time that worked out for us was? Good question. I feel like the short corners generate quality chances for us but I can't remember the last time we scored from one. Maybe they aren't that effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 I’d be interested to see stats on how we compare to other teams with corners and free kicks over the years. Are we awful or is it just that they rarely actually result on goals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 30 minutes ago, Spoony said: I’d be interested to see stats on how we compare to other teams with corners and free kicks over the years. Are we awful or is it just that they rarely actually result on goals? free kicks we are quite good, Hourihane got a lot of assists and Traore got one yesterday. Corners we are shocking especially with Mings and Konsa both goal threats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Zatman said: free kicks we are quite good, Hourihane got a lot of assists and Traore got one yesterday. Corners we are shocking especially with Mings and Konsa both goal threats We've converted about 4.2% of all our corners this and last season combined. Considering the average is apparently 2.2% in the Premier League(based on a calculation this guy did for the 2010/11 Premier League season. The average could've changed since then https://sports.stackexchange.com/questions/977/what-percent-of-corner-kicks-turn-into-goals#:~:text=On average%2C the data show,of corners and goal scoring.), I don't think we're doing too bad in corners. From that same link, it says that the average PL team scores a corner every 10 games. We've already had 3 corner goals this season and we haven't even played 10 games. Edited November 22, 2020 by Laughable Chimp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Villaphan04 said: Yesterday, it felt like every time we had a corner we played it short quickly and I keep wondering when the last time that worked out for us was? I feel like if targett was the one receiving the short corner it would be fine. His crossing from those positions is very good so I don't understand why he is the last man. Or often times on the edge of the area. Drop either mcginn or Luiz deeper and allow them to put the ball back into the box quickly if it comes back out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 On 22/11/2020 at 17:56, Laughable Chimp said: We've converted about 4.2% of all our corners this and last season combined. Considering the average is apparently 2.2% in the Premier League(based on a calculation this guy did for the 2010/11 Premier League season. The average could've changed since then https://sports.stackexchange.com/questions/977/what-percent-of-corner-kicks-turn-into-goals#:~:text=On average%2C the data show,of corners and goal scoring.), I don't think we're doing too bad in corners. From that same link, it says that the average PL team scores a corner every 10 games. We've already had 3 corner goals this season and we haven't even played 10 games. I kind of suspected this. WDFAFC, but so does everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 We at least seem to have moved away from that every one of out set pieces leads to a scoring opportunity for our opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 On 26/11/2020 at 14:33, sne said: We at least seem to have moved away from that every one of out set pieces leads to a scoring opportunity for our opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) Putting the aerial dominant Mcginn on the tallest defenders. Brilliant strategy if I must say so myself. What could possibly go wrong? Edited December 1, 2020 by villalad21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I do regularly question why Mings is constantly just guarding space on corners. Time and time again, the opposition’s biggest players are free to attack the ball. The zonal marking doesn’t seem to be working very well, maybe time for a change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 4 hours ago, villalad21 said: Putting the aerial dominant Mcginn on the tallest defenders. Brilliant strategy if I must say so myself. What could possibly go wrong? McGinn is supposed to block the run. Smith referred to them as blockers in the interview with sky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 4 hours ago, It's Your Round said: I do regularly question why Mings is constantly just guarding space on corners. Time and time again, the opposition’s biggest players are free to attack the ball. The zonal marking doesn’t seem to be working very well, maybe time for a change? On the replay for their first last night he was on the edge of the 6 yard box not even close to any of their players and nowhere near the ball, he should be marking their biggest threat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Just now, mykeyb said: On the replay for their first last night he was on the edge of the 6 yard box not even close to any of their players and nowhere near the ball, he should be marking their biggest threat. It really isn't rocket science. Stop overcomplicating football when it's a really simple game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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