WHY Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dale said: Not sure on what basis McGinn and Ramsey have been struggling a great deal more Anyone of them could have been dropped, Luiz would make most sense if he’s not going to be here next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 20 minutes ago, Dale said: Not sure on what basis McGinn and Ramsey have been struggling a great deal more Contact talks incentive is my only thought. Maybe they've tried the bigging him up approach and it hasn't worked so now they're going with the, fine, we'll try someone who wants to be part of the project instead. Either that or he's carrying a knock. No other real logical option given the form of the other two and the fact he's more rested than them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 23 minutes ago, WHY said: Exactly, we know what Luiz can do and there is a fair chance he’s not going to be here next season. We also know what McGinn can do it who played 2 games this week for Scotland and think one was away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 We are a mess without him unsurprisingly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 It genuinely isn't a coincidence that Villa look half the team without him there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 How he got dropped over McGinn is a joke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 another game our defence collapses without him, he didnt play Watford and West Ham earlier this season and came off when we were winning vs Wolves earlier in the season Thats 12 goals in less than 3 games yet he is the problem to some 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 he is genuinely our most important/influential player just because of how he links the defense with the attacking half of the pitch. I haven't seen any of the other players have the ability to do that today -- his skillset isn't replicated with anyone in the squad apart from maybe Nakamba (and Iroegbunam might have the potential) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sne Posted April 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2022 No where to be seen for either of their goals. Time to get rid? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Probz his best game for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 4 hours ago, CVByrne said: Saying in interviews how highly he rates him while playing him in every game It's Crystal Clear he doesn't rate him He clearly rates him but he said no talks have began, he’s been very clear about that. I think he rates him but I also think he wants a different type of player in midfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 We're going to sign probably four players on more money than him this summer and none will be as good. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 17 hours ago, WHY said: Anyone of them could have been dropped, Luiz would make most sense if he’s not going to be here next season. Yeah i wonder why? Probably because he gets dropped instead of shit mcginn and jj who was absolutely terrible yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Yeah i wonder why? Probably because he gets dropped instead of shit mcginn and jj who was absolutely terrible yesterday I wonder if it’s more the other way around to be honest. We’re safe and there’s a good chance Luiz isn’t here after the summer. Probably factors into Gerrard’s thoughts for the rest of the season. Replacing him with a player that simply can’t play defensive midfield was pretty ridiculous though and set that entire midfield up to fail yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 48 minutes ago, tom_avfc said: I wonder if it’s more the other way around to be honest. We’re safe and there’s a good chance Luiz isn’t here after the summer. Probably factors into Gerrard’s thoughts for the rest of the season. Replacing him with a player that simply can’t play defensive midfield was pretty ridiculous though and set that entire midfield up to fail yesterday. Thats a good point. I just wonder why luiz doesnt want to stay though? Its abit odd i appreciate we are not playing in europe yet but you can see the ambition of the club. Maybe his head been swayed by the bids in january. If this is the case then i could understand it. But i think when you have shambolic performances like that of mcginn yesterday it doesnt really take you seriously if your playing him again next week. He was pathetic yesterday and deserves to be dropped after that performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Thats a good point. I just wonder why luiz doesnt want to stay though? Its abit odd i appreciate we are not playing in europe yet but you can see the ambition of the club. Maybe his head been swayed by the bids in january. If this is the case then i could understand it. But i think when you have shambolic performances like that of mcginn yesterday it doesnt really take you seriously if your playing him again next week. He was pathetic yesterday and deserves to be dropped after that performance Luiz is going to have his pick of teams in European competition when he leaves. It’s similar to Coutinho. Why would a player take the risk that the next £100m we spend is going to be the one that works when we look a million miles away at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, tom_avfc said: Luiz is going to have his pick of teams in European competition when he leaves. It’s similar to Coutinho. Why would a player take the risk that the next £100m we spend is going to be the one that works when we look a million miles away at the moment? I get what your saying but when your signing players like coutinho and bailey (despite the latter not hit the ground running) you are showing ambition I think we will cash in on luiz in summer. He will fetch around 30m and that should be enough to get couts perm. We desperately need a dm and i know some on here dont rate him but bissouma for me is the exact player we need. He is better than any dm we currently have in my opinion. Just playing in a poorer side. The luiz money will come handy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I get what your saying but when your signing players like coutinho and bailey (despite the latter not hit the ground running) you are showing ambition I think we will cash in on luiz in summer. He will fetch around 30m and that should be enough to get couts perm. We desperately need a dm and i know some on here dont rate him but bissouma for me is the exact player we need. He is better than any dm we currently have in my opinion. Just playing in a poorer side. The luiz money will come handy Thats the other thing, I am sure Coutinho and Luiz are good friends well since he joined Villa. Will Coutinho want to stay if Luiz goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Just now, Zatman said: Thats the other thing, I am sure Coutinho and Luiz are good friends well since he joined Villa. Will Coutinho want to stay if Luiz goes Thats a valid point, i think it will come down to gerrard and the ambition we show in the summer. I wouldnt be suprised if attempt to sign another brazilian to sweeten it for couts if luiz leaves. The strong links for roma with luiz are unusual as i dont think luiz has been good enough to get in there cm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sne Posted April 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2022 I quite like Sanson and think he's done well for the most part when given a chance. But dropping Luiz, the only player who is comfortable with the ball during buildup was a moronic idea. It should have been McGinn and or Ramsey on the bench. Mings hoofing to Bailey & Coutinho is not building from the back. Yesterday showcased exactly why Luiz is so important. We might need a more defense oriented player next to him if he stays but we we need him or someone new who is comfortable with the ball to pick it up from the defenders if we pretend to have any type of intelligent possession. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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