Popular Post sne Posted June 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2019 Ruling out loan signings is silly and frankly a bit arrogant. We are not in a position (yet) where we scoff at what loan players can offer. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Deluofeu to Watford is another good example of a loan that has worked out well. Great player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, sne said: Ruling out loan signings is silly and frankly a bit arrogant. We are not in a position (yet) where we scoff at what loan players can offer. Exactly. If we do loan anyone then we know 99.9% there will be a clause in there to sign them at the end of the loan for a pre-agreed fee. Edited June 21, 2019 by AvfcRigo82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post romavillan Posted June 21, 2019 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2019 57 minutes ago, sne said: Ruling out loan signings is silly and frankly a bit arrogant. We are not in a position (yet) where we scoff at what loan players can offer. Purslow didn't though, he just ruled out a lan with no option to buy at the end of it. I think he's right, we should get the value of developing players, not someone else. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, romavillan said: Purslow didn't though, he just ruled out a lan with no option to buy at the end of it. I think he's right, we should get the value of developing players, not someone else. Depends on the player and situation, but in an ideal world yes, agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 12 hours ago, romavillan said: Purslow didn't though, he just ruled out a lan with no option to buy at the end of it. I think he's right, we should get the value of developing players, not someone else. It shows that he is thinking about the business model that will take the club forward for the foreseeable future and beyond, which is very reassuring. It gives players an ultimatum as well, we're not just some stepping stone or platform for you to impress other teams. We're Aston Villa and we expect commitment and dedication. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Even with the above said and taken into account, I would take Ampadu on loan for a season without a doubt. Very tidy, excellent IQ both defensively and in attack. Him and McGinn would be sensational pairing to allow Grealish license to focus on attacks. Has a lofted pass which makes his transition play near perfect because he will make a stellar interception and immediately release a pass that plays in behind enemy lines. Would be an absolute asset. For games where we are under the pump, and are more reliant on direct play and counter attacks, but also to add another dimension with ball retention and build up play passages. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted June 22, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, romavillan said: Purslow didn't though, he just ruled out a lan with no option to buy at the end of it. I think he's right, we should get the value of developing players, not someone else. I don't understand this point of view at all. Imagine if Lionel Messi gets put up for loan but Barca don't give us an option to buy, we just go nah thanks we'll be right. I'm not a big fan of loans for the same reason other people aren't. However if DS or whoever makes the call thinks we can loan in a player that can help us stay up and establish ourselves in the Premier League, I would really hope we sign them on loan. To not do so would be negligent and arrogant. Purslow has just said that we won't sign loans without an option to buy, to send a message to other clubs. He doesn't mean it literally I'm quite sure. It's no different to when a club says a player is not for sale at any price and 3 weeks later he signs for another club. One day hopefully we will never need to loan another player in, but we are beggars in the PL at the moment and we need to choose wisely. Edited June 22, 2019 by Villan_of_oz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojong Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 45 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: I don't understand this point of view at all. Imagine if Lionel Messi gets put up for loan but Barca don't give us an option to buy, we just go nah thanks we'll be right. I'm not a big fan of loans for the same reason other people aren't. However if DS or whoever makes the call thinks we can loan in a player that can help us stay up and establish ourselves in the Premier League, I would really hope we sign them on loan. To not do so would be negligent and arrogant. Purslow has just said that we won't sign loans without an option to buy, to send a message to other clubs. He doesn't mean it literally I'm quite sure. It's no different to when a club says a player is not for sale at any price and 3 weeks later he signs for another club. One day hopefully we will never need to loan another player in, but we are beggars in the PL at the moment and we need to choose wisely. Exactly! While some talk about loans like massive mistakes we've made, without loans we wouldn't have made the playoffs last or this year or won the promotion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, sne said: Ruling out loan signings is silly and frankly a bit arrogant. We are not in a position (yet) where we scoff at what loan players can offer. Actually we are. Loan signigns are largely about lacking the financial means to sign someone permanently. If we can sign a loan with option to buy, fine. If not, stay away. If the argument is that we can't find better players for sale than what's available for loan, then I suggest we sack our scouting department, because then they must be **** shit. The huge problem with loans is that it very often leads to a loan circle where the club doesn't develop from it. It's short term thinking where you should be thinking long term. Edited June 22, 2019 by KenjiOgiwara 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) On 22/06/2019 at 02:15, Villan_of_oz said: I don't understand this point of view at all. Imagine if Lionel Messi gets put up for loan but Barca don't give us an option to buy, we just go nah thanks we'll be right. I'm not a big fan of loans for the same reason other people aren't. However if DS or whoever makes the call thinks we can loan in a player that can help us stay up and establish ourselves in the Premier League, I would really hope we sign them on loan. To not do so would be negligent and arrogant. Purslow has just said that we won't sign loans without an option to buy, to send a message to other clubs. He doesn't mean it literally I'm quite sure. It's no different to when a club says a player is not for sale at any price and 3 weeks later he signs for another club. One day hopefully we will never need to loan another player in, but we are beggars in the PL at the moment and we need to choose wisely. Yes, because it’s someone trying to scam us. obviously. Nigerian accent: ’Can u transfer the monies into our account, and we’ll send you Lionel Messi first class post next week.’ Edited June 28, 2019 by Thug 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 44 minutes ago, Thug said: Yes, because it’s someone trying to scam us. obviously. Nigerian accent: ’Can u transfer the monies into our account, and we’ll send you Lionel Messi first class post next week.’ I think the mystery disappearance of Xia money has been solved 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 13 hours ago, Thug said: Yes, because it’s someone trying to scam us. obviously. Nigerian accent: ’Can u transfer the monies into our account, and we’ll send you Lionel Messi first class post next week.’ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 22/06/2019 at 02:15, Villan_of_oz said: I don't understand this point of view at all. Imagine if Lionel Messi gets put up for loan but Barca don't give us an option to buy, we just go nah thanks we'll be right Thats part of the issue though, you wont get super players on just a loan for a season. It's usually players that are looking for a move but can't find a permanent move so settle for a loan, or kids that their parent clubs are looking to get other sucker to develop for them. The club has shown its interest in the former option but only by adding a purchase clause at the end of the loan, its the latter option we are trying to move away from where we wont be taken for mugs anymore by developing other teams young promising players with no long term benefit for ourselves and rightly so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I like Ampadu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 14 hours ago, VILLAMARV said: I like Ampadu I reckon he'll be class at the top level.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallett Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 I would love to see him come to Villa but Lampard starting at Chelsea and their transfer ban makes it feel very unlikely. The transfer window closing before the start of the season doesn't help. When players like Ampadu saw for themselves who the manager was picking for the team at the start of the season, they would suddenly see through all the 'you're an important part of my plans' and want to go out on loan like Tammy did last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Can't see this one happening now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Ampadu set to go on loan Chelsea's teenage Wales defender Ethan Ampadu is likely to leave the club on loan this season, manager Frank Lampard has confirmed. The centre-back, 18, has not joined the Premier League club's pre-season tour of Japan in anticipation of a move. Aston Villa are reportedly interested in signing Ampadu, who has played 12 times for Chelsea's first team. This lad has been linked with us again today on the bbc. I can't see it beng to us, especially if our deals for Luiz and Engels go through shortly. I would have thought he would go to a club where he is guaranteed playing time, which might not happen here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Can see him going to Derby to be honest. I think Lampard will still try to do what he can to help them whilst they're not in the same league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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