gurru991 Posted May 16, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2020 On 17/04/2020 at 10:03, sir_gary_cahill said: I only praise Drinkwater for his achievements from years ago in hope that he can get back to that. I acknowledge that he won’t get back to that now I don't feel there is any way back for Drinkwater in the Premier league. The fact that after half a season at Burnley he showed up so badly out of shape tells me he is just cashing paycheques now. Damn Shame !! He was very good at Leicester !! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Really wish we could sell this guy in the summer but got no idea who'd even want him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 9 hours ago, gurru991 said: I don't feel there is any way back for Drinkwater in the Premier league. The fact that after half a season at Burnley he showed up so badly out of shape tells me he is just cashing paycheques now. Damn Shame !! He was very good at Leicester !! Why do you think that Smith brought him to the club then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: Really wish we could sell this guy in the summer but got no idea who'd even want him? I do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Why do you think that Smith brought him to the club then? No idea mate. Dont even seem the sort of player to inspire others, just looks a player running out his career. He obviously dont graft in training, he's blowing out at 30 minutes, an that's being fair to him. He'll be no use to us at the restart, no use at all. Reminds me of the shite we used to sign, you know, players with premier league experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 32 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: No idea mate. Dont even seem the sort of player to inspire others, just looks a player running out his career. He obviously dont graft in training, he's blowing out at 30 minutes, an that's being fair to him. He'll be no use to us at the restart, no use at all. Reminds me of the shite we used to sign, you know, players with premier league experience. He’s our only central defensive midfielder that can actually get on the ball, dictate play and he knows the league too. Yes, he has done wrong with the confrontation with Jota but no player anywhere is squeaky clean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I'm confused. Thought this was the Wesley thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: I'm confused. Thought this was the Wesley thread Apologies, I got sidetracked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I stand by my opinion that we have been a lot worse without him. I don’t know the true facts... haven’t been bothered to research it, but I think we look a lot weaker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Tayls said: I stand by my opinion that we have been a lot worse without him. I don’t know the true facts... haven’t been bothered to research it, but I think we look a lot weaker. No. We've looked a lot worse without McGinn. Wesley has been a totally and utterly flop of a signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, villalad21 said: No. We've looked a lot worse without McGinn. Wesley has been a totally and utterly flop of a signing. Hit me with the numbers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) I'd say Wesley helped us win a few matches personally, notably against Everton and Norwich. You might argue Wesley was playing OK in the Burnley match too, his injury (and Heaton's) coincided with our poor form. Edited May 17, 2020 by Zhan_Zhuang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tayls said: I stand by my opinion that we have been a lot worse without him. I don’t know the true facts... haven’t been bothered to research it, but I think we look a lot weaker. Results in the 7 league games after he got injured is pretty similar to the 7 before he got injured. 5 losses, 1 win, 1 draw. Add in the game he got injured in and it's another 3 points. He didn't feature in our cup run other than a 15 min cameo against the Liverpool kids, where he scored. He did look solid in the game he got injured, probably his second best game here. But for me Samatta looks infinitely better in pretty much every aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 18 hours ago, VillaJ100 said: Is he running with a limp? No he's on his own 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 14 hours ago, gurru991 said: I don't feel there is any way back for Drinkwater in the Premier league. The fact that after half a season at Burnley he showed up so badly out of shape tells me he is just cashing paycheques now. Damn Shame !! He was very good at Leicester !! Its another Ross McCormack saga. just glad we didn't buy him.....its was another panic recruit. its why due dilligence on character is so important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I'd like to know what this guy offers. He doesn't hold the ball up. He's rarely in the box at the end of crosses. He's a poor header of the ball. His link up play isn't very good. His shooting is poor. Samatta does everything better than him and looks to me like a proper number 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I'd like to know what this guy offers. He doesn't hold the ball up. He's rarely in the box at the end of crosses. He's a poor header of the ball. His link up play isn't very good. His shooting is poor. Samatta does everything better than him and looks to me like a proper number 9. I think with one up front it is very difficult to appraise, many strikers. samatta has been playing longer than wesley, to work these things out. I would prefer one winger and two strikers, as opposed to two wingers and one striker....under the circumstances. Edited May 17, 2020 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, TRO said: I think with one up front it is very difficult to appraise, many strikers. samatta has been playing longer than wesley, to work these things out. I would prefer one winger and two strikers, as opposed to two wingers and one striker....under the circumstances. Wesley might work better in a 4-4-2. He simply isn't a number 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Wesley might work better in a 4-4-2. He simply isn't a number 9 The problem is we have screwed up midfield too much to play with two strikers.....so we now have 2 dep'ts screwed. we just throw bodies at our midfield, there is no cohesive structure, so it affects whats in front and behind. I think Wesley is partly a victim of all that. Edited May 17, 2020 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 hours ago, foreveryoung said: No idea mate. Dont even seem the sort of player to inspire others, just looks a player running out his career. He obviously dont graft in training, he's blowing out at 30 minutes, an that's being fair to him. He'll be no use to us at the restart, no use at all. Reminds me of the shite we used to sign, you know, players with premier league experience. Its not about the premier league experience being the issue. its signing the right players.....is the issue......and it has been for too long now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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