S-Platt Posted November 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 24, 2020 50 minutes ago, villarule123 said: I should get a ticket first because I'm a bigger fan than all of you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, villarule123 said: I should get a ticket first because I'm a bigger fan than all of you Considerably? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withes_shin Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, villarule123 said: I should get a ticket first because I'm a bigger fan than all of you Yeah but my Dad is bigger than yours, so I should be first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Quote Aston Villa release statement after fans named as worst for hate crimes in 2019-20 season Aston Villa chief executive Christian Purslow issues statement after Home Office data showed AVFC fans were reported for alleged hate crimes 13 times in 2019-20 season Aston Villa say they are fully committed to rooting out hate crime after Home Office data showed fans of the club were reported more than supporters of any other club last season. A Freedom of Information request by the PA news agency showed Villa supporters were reported for alleged hate crimes on 13 occasions during the 2019/20 campaign. They were reported for seven incidents related to race, five related to sexual orientation and one associated to religion. https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-release-statement-after-19340184 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 3 hours ago, sne said: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-release-statement-after-19340184 We seem to have recent history for this. Not sure why though. Isn't Birmingham very multicultural? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 thats shit news The FOI request also found just four reports of hate crime related to matches played when the professional game resumed in June and July, even though online incidents were included in the data for the first time. i was going to say that in some sort of twisted silver lining hope was that we had higher numbers because it was villa fans reporting other villa fans and getting them the **** out of VP but the online stuff suggests thats not the case, we definitely have our fair share of idiots on twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 The Zaha thing was cerrainly one of them, for some reason I remember another online issue but was a bit more low profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Where do they get their data from? Thats the key for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 25, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Where do they get their data from? Thats the key for me It was a freedom of information request from the journalist - it's data that's recorded by each of the countries police forces. There's a little bit of influence in the numbers that tells you which police forces take this sort of stuff seriously and which don't - WM Police have a specific hate crimes unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 7 hours ago, Keyblade said: We seem to have recent history for this. Not sure why though. Isn't Birmingham very multicultural? You have villa fans all over the West Midlands which is quite a large area. Many of these areas are predominantly white working class areas. That aside it sounds like the racism is mainly online keyboard warriors. Most of them probably kids too that haven’t been taught better. It’s not the nasty at the ground stuff you’d get at a place like Millwall. Now that’s really disturbing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 27 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: It was a freedom of information request from the journalist - it's data that's recorded by each of the countries police forces. There's a little bit of influence in the numbers that tells you which police forces take this sort of stuff seriously and which don't - WM Police have a specific hate crimes unit. This is what i mean i think the repeorying isnt 100% accurate.im not saying it doesnt happen at villa as we have l heard it. But ive been to chelsea so many times and the amount of vile things i have heard is incredible. But these people are so scary people are scared to say anything that includes stewards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 25, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: This is what i mean i think the repeorying isnt 100% accurate.im not saying it doesnt happen at villa as we have l heard it. It's definitely accurate - it's just not consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: This is what i mean i think the repeorying isnt 100% accurate.im not saying it doesnt happen at villa as we have l heard it. But ive been to chelsea so many times and the amount of vile things i have heard is incredible. But these people are so scary people are scared to say anything that includes stewards thats what i meant about the slight potential silver lining thing this is telling you the number of incidents that are reported, it doesnt tell you who its reported by, my only hope is that its being reported by villa fans because its not tollerated whereas other clubs may have slightly lower figures because their fans are sitting in silence if all our arrests for racism have come from the lower holte for example then thats villa fans standing up to it but then the online incidents suggest that thats probably not the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiezels Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Keyblade said: We seem to have recent history for this. Not sure why though. Isn't Birmingham very multicultural? An indication of how shit it can be at the football is that Birmingham IS very multicultural... but our fan base in the stadium is 98% white. A real shame in my eyes. Good mate of mine is British, Pakistani heritage, he stopped going to England games with us because he was sick of the abuse he got, mostly under handed comments that the rest of us didn’t hear and were oblivious too. And if that isn’t an indication of the issues and why BLM was was such big movement I don’t know what is, we go about our lives never having to deal with an attack on ourselves because of the colour of our skin, but many blokes and their families have stopped going to football because of it. Its a real issue and I’m glad the club are acting on it. **** racist words removed. Edited November 25, 2020 by spiezels 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, spiezels said: An indication of how shit it can be at the football is that Birmingham IS very multicultural... but our fan base in the stadium is 98% white. A real shame in my eyes. Good mate of mine is British, Pakistani heritage, he stopped going to England games with us because he was sick of the abuse he got, mostly under handed comments that the rest of us didn’t hear and were oblivious too. And if that isn’t an indication of the issues and why BLM was was such big movement I don’t know what is, we go about our lives never having to deal with an attack on ourselves because of the colour of our skin, but many blokes and their families have stopped going to football because of it. Its a real issue and I’m glad the club are acting on it. **** racist words removed. I have to admit it’s why I stopped sitting in the Holte end. (That and my s**t eyesight). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 26, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 26, 2020 Birmingham in Tier 3 means no fans at Villa Park for a while yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted November 26, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 26, 2020 On 25/11/2020 at 09:39, Vive_La_Villa said: I have to admit it’s why I stopped sitting in the Holte end. (That and my s**t eyesight). If that kind of abuse happened anywhere near me in the lower Holte I would clump the instigators 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 we play 3 "winnable" games at home in December and wolves + baggies away, all in front of 0 fans you can only really judge it retrospectively but i think the 2 away games being behind closed doors is a good thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 2 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: Birmingham in Tier 3 means no fans at Villa Park for a while yet. I dint see how this is fair tk allow slme fans in and some not? Even 2k fans is still abit of advantage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 26, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: I dint see how this is fair tk allow slme fans in and some not? Even 2k fans is still abit of advantage Exactly half of the teams will have no fans. It'll be interesting to see how they handle that. Personally I think the league should say no and not let fans in unless everywhere can have fans, but given that the whole thing is a PR stunt by the Tory party anyway, I'm guessing they'd get enormous pressure from govt if they tried that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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