Tayls Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 I’ll go! Because people are pussyfooting around it. So does this mean they hate us now and want to sell us and see us return to how we were back in the championship even though we are going to win the league this year? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DCJonah Posted December 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2023 I'm sure there's some way to blame Zaniolo for this. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Investment Firm: Hey Aston Villa, we shall give you £x over the next 3 years, in return we would like % of profit from that investment. We can come to an arrangement that's beneficial to Aston Villa and to us. Aston Villa Fans : those evil bastards. Some of these will also be the same fans who moan about absolutely everything at the club, including team performances, players, and the transfer window. The irony. " We are Aston Villa, we need to win the League, the Cups, and all the trophies, but like in the good old days, with no sponsors, wooden benches, full XI from the Academy and without dirty TV money arrrgggggh!!!! " 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 So they’ve basically purchased a minority stake in V Sports for ??? £££ yet NSWE retain 100% of Aston Villa men’s & ladies teams … Brilliant deal with zero downsides then. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 38 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I'm sure there's some way to blame Zaniolo for this. @Delphinho123will find a way 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 So who is actually behind Atarios apart from what a quick Google brings up? No links to Saudi or any other colorful places I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevonIsAPlaceOnEarth Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 35 minutes ago, thabucks said: So they’ve basically purchased a minority stake in V Sports for ??? £££ yet NSWE retain 100% of Aston Villa men’s & ladies teams … Brilliant deal with zero downsides then. My understanding is that they’ve bough a stake in V Sports, V Sports owns Villa. NWSE own a stake in V sports also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Pongo Waring said: Investment. Ticket prices up another 20% then so they can make some money on their investment? or a new TV deal... or just market inflation, we will be worth more in 5 years than we are now, should NSWE decide to sell us they must be close to making a profit already seems like if these guys had invested in say brighton there'd be comments about brighton being able to outspend us but because its us it has to be a negative 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 40 minutes ago, thabucks said: So they’ve basically purchased a minority stake in V Sports for ??? £££ yet NSWE retain 100% of Aston Villa men’s & ladies teams … Brilliant deal with zero downsides then. Not really no. V Sports own 100% of Aston Villa. If Atairos now own say, 10% of V Sports, they indirectly own 10% of everything V Sports own, including Villa. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, sne said: So who is actually behind Atarios apart from what a quick Google brings up? No links to Saudi or any other colorful places I hope. had a quick look and its a guy called michael angelakis, looks like a CFO doing very well for himself, google cant tell me his net worth though its all over the shop ranging from $750k to $2bn they've got their fingers in a lot of pies, he's on the board of directors at 6 companies edit - they also seem to have a lot of ties with comcast, who are NBC, who have the PL rights in the states dont they? 7 minutes ago, Risso said: Not really no. V Sports own 100% of Aston Villa. If Atairos now own say, 10% of V Sports, they indirectly own 10% of everything V Sports own, including Villa. thats how id see it too but then the management structure of villa wouldnt necessarily mean someone from atarios has a position on our board or any real influence, own us without managing us, another thing that we'll probably never know nas is the largest stakeholder in adidas, he has next to nothing to do with managing them though Edited December 15, 2023 by villa4europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, sne said: So who is actually behind Atarios apart from what a quick Google brings up? No links to Saudi or any other colorful places I hope. Sounds Greek? But yeah I get what you mean. I'm sure it will come up eventually anyway Little snidbit from previous murmurings though, I don't think Nassef was/is particularly fond of Saudi regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: had a quick look and its a guy called michael angelakis, looks like a CFO doing very well for himself, google cant tell me his net worth though its all over the shop ranging from $750k to $2bn they've got their fingers in a lot of pies, he's on the board of directors at 6 companies thats how id see it too but then the management structure of villa wouldnt necessarily mean someone from atarios has a position on our board or any real influence, own us without managing us, another thing that we'll probably never know nas is the largest stakeholder in adidas, he has next to nothing to do with managing them though I meant more who's investing in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Follyfoot Posted December 15, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2023 Firstly Edens trousering the Gresford money and now this, total disgrace I am off down the Blues 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 19 minutes ago, villa4europe said: had a quick look and its a guy called michael angelakis, looks like a CFO doing very well for himself, google cant tell me his net worth though its all over the shop ranging from $750k to $2bn they've got their fingers in a lot of pies, he's on the board of directors at 6 companies edit - they also seem to have a lot of ties with comcast, who are NBC, who have the PL rights in the states dont they? thats how id see it too but then the management structure of villa wouldnt necessarily mean someone from atarios has a position on our board or any real influence, own us without managing us, another thing that we'll probably never know nas is the largest stakeholder in adidas, he has next to nothing to do with managing them though Sawiris is a director of Adidas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Mic09 said: Investment Firm: Hey Aston Villa, we shall give you £x over the next 3 years, in return we would like % of profit from that investment. We can come to an arrangement that's beneficial to Aston Villa and to us. Aston Villa Fans : those evil bastards. Tell me you've never been indirectly shafted by investment companies without telling me you've never been indirectly shafted by investment companies. When you follow the trail back, they've got their dirty paws on pretty much everything, and not for the better. And now they're involved in our club. But hey, very modern of you to be cool with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 32 minutes ago, Risso said: Sawiris is a director of Adidas. I'm not sure he is, he's definitely not on the executive board, he's on the supervisory board which is a German thing (called Mitbestimmungsgesetz) , also called a works council Their power is usually related to employee rights and almost like a in house union and usually elected by colleagues Often said he could get us an Adidas deal, my understanding of German companies is he could ask and he could influence a decision but he would have no say or vote on such a decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, est1874 said: Tell me you've never been indirectly shafted by investment companies without telling me you've never been indirectly shafted by investment companies. When you follow the trail back, they've got their dirty paws on pretty much everything, and not for the better. And now they're involved in our club. But hey, very modern of you to be cool with that. Do you not think our owners are smart enough to decide who to do business with? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, est1874 said: Tell me you've never been indirectly shafted by investment companies without telling me you've never been indirectly shafted by investment companies. When you follow the trail back, they've got their dirty paws on pretty much everything, and not for the better. And now they're involved in our club. But hey, very modern of you to be cool with that. You got a mortgage? Ever bought anything on finance? It's the same principle. You ask a company to give you some cash so you can buy something you want and you pay back over time. It's as simple as that. And let's not pretend Aston Villa is some holy virtue to be kept clean of things as dirty as business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Wes edens owns an investment firm... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Wes edens owns an investment firm... I still want Fortress Villa Park to be a thing for big dollars... Lol Edit: Don't think he actually owns Fortress anymore but surely has the ties. Edited December 15, 2023 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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