villa4europe Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 That won't be up for long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 11, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 11, 2022 Watched Thor 4. I enjoyed it but was left feeling there's a better film that could have been made from the ingredients here. It chucks so many gags and 'bits' at you that inevitably a bunch miss... But there's so many that some will most likely get you. I enjoyed the jealousy stuff, Jane Fonda/Josie Foster, a few other bits, but felt others were noticeably flat - the am -dram that isn't funny this time, it does the goat thing too much. But the fact it tries to be funny in absolutely every moment kinda undermines it all. The film suffers because it chooses to throw 7 more gags over a couple of plot it character scenes. The 2 stories here are both good and dramatically satisfying, but they're like half plots - a significant part of Jane's plot is introduced in the third act and basically shuttered 2 minutes later, for instance. Bale is completely under used - the film basically decides his plot is simply a set up for an antagonist and then abandons it until the end. He has fun in the role and bizarrely creepy at times, but he's barely in the film. The other problem I think, and it comes across more in the first half, is it almost felt to me like the comedy was contemptuous of the whole thing - the opening monologue takes the piss out of Thor's story (which is also rubbished by making Thor a pure comedy character now), New Asgard has the am-dram performance mocking the previous film and fans, and minor sight gags like an ice cream shop called 'Infinity Cones' seems to read as a jab of the commercial nature of the franchise. Saying all that I did enjoy it. It is funny, it has good performances, the action is fine, the GnR thing works for me, and although the end is a bit... shit... the ride to get there is fun. But definitely could have been better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) No surprise here but Thor Love and Thunder really wasn't for me. Guess you can give em credit, it takes balls to do a comedy aimed at kids about stage 4 cancer, mass murder and child kidnapping but the endless attempts at jokes got tiresome really fast. This Taika Waititi brand of comedy isn't my jam anymore, it's too repetitive now. He's done some other really good stuff thou. It's quite a lot of the Marvel stuff I have not watched but this was one of the worst I have seen. 5/10 maybe. No football really sucks. Edit: This is one of their best in recent times Edited September 13, 2022 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Agree with most of the comments on Thor, nice easy casual watch with a fair few chuckles but it can’t really be classed as a good film. I need to watch Eternals still but I think thats meant to be bang average too isn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Agree with most of the comments on Thor, nice easy casual watch with a fair few chuckles but it can’t really be classed as a good film. I need to watch Eternals still but I think thats meant to be bang average too isn’t it? Yeah eternals is perfectly OK at best, rushed a bit pointless and marvel feeling too bloated at worst whereas say guardians of the galaxy was them branching off and it was such a good different film it was brilliant the eternals is almost the opposite of that, its hard to care for any of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 13, 2022 57 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Agree with most of the comments on Thor, nice easy casual watch with a fair few chuckles but it can’t really be classed as a good film. I need to watch Eternals still but I think thats meant to be bang average too isn’t it? Eternals is a mess. There's good things about it but it tries to introduce a bunch of new characters at the same time, together with a lot of big concepts and a full on plot, in one movie. And some of the acting is crap. And the plot is a bit rubbish. It has some nice cinematography then and some of the ideas are fun. But it's a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) I do miss the seriousness of Thor which came across in the first film. That’s so far gone now though. However saying that if they are going to keep running his storyline alongside GOTG then there really is only one way it can go - comedy. Hemsworth is great at it though. It’s just I prefer Thor to be like he was at the beginning. One thing I hate about the films, is when the protagonist spends their time on a dark planet with nothing else around it, in some massive structure. They keep doing it over and over again (it’s not just marvel to be fair, look where the final battle of Star Wars 9 was). Annoys the hell out of me. Edited September 13, 2022 by Tayls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted September 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) I still think the black and white sequence (With Bale) in Thor:Love and Thunder was one of the best things Marvel have done recently. Really effective but unfortunately didn't fit with the feel of the rest of the film. Edited September 14, 2022 by Designer1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted September 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 14, 2022 Also, re.the end credits: Spoiler Absolutely love that Brett Goldstein got the Hercules gig - one of the nicest blokes you could ever meet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted September 14, 2022 Author Share Posted September 14, 2022 16 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: I need to watch Eternals still but I think thats meant to be bang average too isn’t it? I wouldn’t waste your time, below average 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 I'm gunna go and take a look to see exactly what MCU films I haven't seen I know I lost a shed load of interest after End Game Captain Marvel captain marvel black widow shang chi Eternals Doc Strange multiverse Thor L&T Out of the Series on Disney the only one I have watched is Wandavision...well I watched the Netflix ones as well and I guess the door is open for them to be in the same universe now with Matt Murdock being in Spiderman...was it Spiderman that he was in? I thought there were more films that I hadn't seen, the only 2 that I would potentially watch out of that list is Shang Chi and Thor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 So they are seriously going to make a movie featuring a hero who is a Mossad agent? That's quite something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted September 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, leemond2008 said: I'm gunna go and take a look to see exactly what MCU films I haven't seen I know I lost a shed load of interest after End Game Captain Marvel captain marvel black widow shang chi Eternals Doc Strange multiverse Thor L&T Out of the Series on Disney the only one I have watched is Wandavision...well I watched the Netflix ones as well and I guess the door is open for them to be in the same universe now with Matt Murdock being in Spiderman...was it Spiderman that he was in? I thought there were more films that I hadn't seen, the only 2 that I would potentially watch out of that list is Shang Chi and Thor. I think you would enjoy Multiverse as a Raimi fan. I thought it was great fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted September 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, sne said: So they are seriously going to make a movie featuring a hero who is a Mossad agent? That's quite something. Gabriel Allon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Follyfoot said: Gabriel Allon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted September 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 14, 2022 Just now, sne said: A hero mossad agent from the books by Daniel Silva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Designer1 said: I think you would enjoy Multiverse as a Raimi fan. I thought it was great fun. I didn't realise Raimi did that one, might have to scope that one out as well then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Just now, Follyfoot said: A hero mossad agent from the books by Daniel Silva That's not the one Marvel are adding. She's called Sabra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted September 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, sne said: That's not the one Marvel are adding. She's called Sabra. Oh, my bad Edited September 14, 2022 by Follyfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, leemond2008 said: I'm gunna go and take a look to see exactly what MCU films I haven't seen I know I lost a shed load of interest after End Game Captain Marvel captain marvel black widow shang chi Eternals Doc Strange multiverse Thor L&T Out of the Series on Disney the only one I have watched is Wandavision...well I watched the Netflix ones as well and I guess the door is open for them to be in the same universe now with Matt Murdock being in Spiderman...was it Spiderman that he was in? I thought there were more films that I hadn't seen, the only 2 that I would potentially watch out of that list is Shang Chi and Thor. Shang Chi is well worth watching. A very good, entertaining introduction to a new character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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