One For The Road Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) Couldn't see a thread on them but my word, what is going on up there? 4th in the Premier League. A league we are constantly told is a closed shop where only a select few can compete. Could someone who watches the Premier League explain how on Earth they have managed to get to Christmas in the European places? (Don't they have Lowton and Westwood too!?) Edited December 12, 2017 by One For The Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Fair play to them, lot of average players in the squad like Ward, Brady but lots of team spirit but credit to Dyche its borderline miracle. A lot including myself tipped them to go down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Lowton's been really good for them. In a tight 4-4-2 where he has plenty of cover from the wide player he is a decent full back at this level. Westwood has played about 100 minutes...nothing to see there. Just been really good at the back and actually played some good stuff at times this year. Will be interested if they fall away once they get past 40 points though as happens to many surprise packages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted December 12, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2017 Pleased for Burnley. I don’t see them maintaining it, but a solid top half finish is well within their grasp. If I’m being slightly mean I think their success is partly down to the poor standard of the premier league this season. But you can only beat who’s in front of you and I hope they continue their form, something likeable about them. Sidestepping the Westwood discussion (no good can come from that), I always liked Lowton. I know he had his limitations but I remember being slightly bemused at the time at his removal from the first team and Hutton coming back in from the cold. Especially as I seem to recall his form towards the end of his first season being decent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Lowton was always a decent rb to be honest. i like Burnley and Dyche what a good club they are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 9 hours ago, One For The Road said: A league we are constantly told is a closed shop where only a select few can compete. It is a closed shop and only the select few can compete. There's always one surprise team that starts the season well and normally they tail off towards the end of the season. Wasn't it this time last year that West Brom were flying high in the league? Let's see where Burnley are at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I hope they are putting in some serious research into who they plan to replace Dyche with, because he won't be there for much longer. Brilliant job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: I hope they are putting in some serious research into who they plan to replace Dyche with, because he won't be there for much longer. Brilliant job. Steve Bruce be a good choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Impressive - get's the basics done well and has a team playing for him - as soon as it starts to break up either by losing more than a couple key players or the manager they risk struggling again, but at the moment, they've just gone quietly about it and added away success to their dependable home form. It helps that that are so spectacularly exceeding expectations there is zero pressure on them at all. Staying up will always normally be the target. They'll fall away as the season goes on I think ( though we said that about Leicester ) as the intensity is hard to maintain but they've still got enough about them to compete for 7th. They're taking advantage most out of Everton's uselessness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, villa89 said: It is a closed shop and only the select few can compete. There's always one surprise team that starts the season well and normally they tail off towards the end of the season. Wasn't it this time last year that West Brom were flying high in the league? Let's see where Burnley are at the end of the season. But Burnley ARE competitive. Whether or not they stay there is of course another matter but they are in the Champions League positions nearly at the half way point. This indicates that the higher places in the league may not be as difficult to breach as they used to be. Look at Leicester just two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) Its a false position though as the other teams have to play their game today. they have done well thus far but maintaining it is another thing. I think for a club outside the top 6 its harder to get into the top 4 now than ever before. the gulf is massive. Leicester was a one off. everything came together at the right time. Vardy amazing goal scoring form. Mahrez and Kante and the rest being below par. Edited December 13, 2017 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, One For The Road said: But Burnley ARE competitive. Whether or not they stay there is of course another matter but they are in the Champions League positions nearly at the half way point. This indicates that the higher places in the league may not be as difficult to breach as they used to be. Look at Leicester just two years ago. Well whether they stay there is all that actually matters, and in my opinion they won't. If they don't stay there then it's just a good run of form in the first half of the season, nothing exciting. As I said above there's always a team that does this, it's not unusual or a surprise but 99% of the time they revert to type. Leicester were an anomaly, not a new norm. People were raving about Watford a few weeks ago... Edited December 13, 2017 by villa89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Why Everton did not go for Dyche ahead of Fat Sam I will never know Dyche is more for the future Sam will be there 2-3 tops i think. If we got up I would be happy with Dyche as manager if we stablised ourselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted December 13, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 13, 2017 8 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Lowton was always a decent rb to be honest. i like Burnley and Dyche what a good club they are. Lowton is a good footballer sadly he just doesn't have any real pace. That's such a key factor in the PL these days that players who are more athletes than footballers will get further than someone like Lowton. As someone said, in the right system with cover from a fast winger he's a real asset. It would frustrate me that he could never get past the opposition full back to get to the by-line so he always crossed from in front of the 18 yard area at a strange angle. Benteke still managed to get a few headed goals off them though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 6 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Why Everton did not go for Dyche ahead of Fat Sam I will never know Dyche is more for the future Sam will be there 2-3 tops i think. If we got up I would be happy with Dyche as manager if we stablised ourselves We have as much chance of getting Dyche as we do Conte at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Czechlad said: We have as much chance of getting Dyche as we do Conte at this point. Hence what i wrote in last paragraph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted December 13, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 13, 2017 Happy for Lowton. Always liked him. Incredible from Burnley though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted December 13, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 13, 2017 Down to 6th currently. Dyche out! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 6 hours ago, Czechlad said: We have as much chance of getting Dyche as we do Conte at this point. You are saying there is a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Just watching the pre match build up on sky. I really like Sean Dyche, and I think they have a great set up at Burnley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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