AvfcRigo82 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 29 minutes ago, holteend1982 said: Its about building a good squad is my point. Adding to it rather than wholesale changes, your idea of just throwing money around making awful decisions is one of the reasons we are in out current position. We need a slow transition of adding 4 or 5 players a season and getting some stability back in our side. No one is talking of throwing money around but at the same time the wholesale changes will need to happen and balance has to be factored with quality definately needing added at the same time. I believe that can happen without spending stupid lots of money ala. Sigurdsson £50m esq, as I firmly believe better quality is out there and for alot cheaper if done correctly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 13 hours ago, Villan4Life said: Lol are we after the old Plan B from 5 years ago or the new one? That is a bizarre beard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 It's all so in the balance. If we go up - we'll be allowed to spend. If we don't we'll be looking at a sizeable clear out imo. Whilst the club needs to plan for every eventuality I'd worry about building a PL squad if and when it's applicable. As for this window if the lad from Man Utd is coming in as CB cover I imagine we're waiting to see where/if Elphick is off. We're obviously trying to court a striker and I'll be amazed if we don't bring one in on loan at least. As for the likes of Bree, DeLaet, Bjarnason and Lansbury lets see what the next week has in store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Snoddy, Johnstone, Onomah, will go Terry might retire or not sign a new contract. Samba will also go. Jedi and Whelan will IMO not have the legs to play in the PL, or maybe even the Championship next season. Our best LB is Hutton and he's finally out of contract, as i s Gabby. We need a new #1 striker and competition on the flanks, but our offensive options are sorta fine if Green and Grealish can take another step. If they can... We will likely need a new keeper, CB and improvements on both RB and LB. And new holding midfielder. I make it 6-7 starting 11 players in, and even then we are relying on our youngsters to step up (something I'm very much for). Thing is these changes will need to be done, to a lesser extent even if we are not promoted. Big season this one, big season next season too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomvilla7 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, sne said: Snoddy, Johnstone, Onomah, will go Terry might retire or not sign a new contract. Samba will also go. Jedi and Whelan will IMO not have the legs to play in the PL, or maybe even the Championship next season. Our best LB is Hutton and he's finally out of contract, as i s Gabby. We need a new #1 striker and competition on the flanks, but our offensive options are sorta fine if Green and Grealish can take another step. If they can... We will likely need a new keeper, CB and improvements on both RB and LB. And new holding midfielder. I make it 6-7 starting 11 players in, and even then we are relying on our youngsters to step up (something I'm very much for). Thing is these changes will need to be done, to a lesser extent even if we are not promoted. Big season this one, big season next season too. I would hope that we would go all out to try and keep Johnstone & Snodgrass. But worried about an extra CB & Midfield - I think Grealish will benefit from a consistent manager & game time so think he will be ok. Green I'm not sure on yet. RB & LB will need an upgrade but not a priority I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Bomvilla7 said: I would hope that we would go all out to try and keep Johnstone & Snodgrass. But worried about an extra CB & Midfield - I think Grealish will benefit from a consistent manager & game time so think he will be ok. Green I'm not sure on yet. RB & LB will need an upgrade but not a priority I think Going into the PL with Elmo and Taylor (or Hutton, De Laet, Bree, Richards...) as our wide backs would be suicide IMO If'we're not promoted I fear we'll be priced out of Snoddy and Johnstone, if we are promoted we should aim higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 For what it's worth, this is what our squad could potentially look like come June after contract expirys and loans ending etc. Steer De Laet, Bree, Richards, Chester, Elmohammady, Elphick, Green, Suliman, Taylor. Adomah, Thishbola, Lansbury, Jedinak, Whelen, Lyden, Grealish, Hourihane, Gardner, Bjarnasson,, O'Hare, Hogan, McCormack, Davis, Kodja, Hepburn-Murphy. That is the squad we could be left with technically come June 2018 if we are promoted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 De Laet, Richards, Lyden, Jedi or Whelan, Tshisbola and McCormack all need replaced with better quality in other areas imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 19 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: At this level though I'd expect him to be one of the best in the division. Well, he might get that chance next season, but not with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AntrimBlack Posted January 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 hours ago, wilko154 said: We probably wouldn't get far you are right. However you can't just go up, sell 14 players, keep 7 and then buy a new 14. The reason the club will look at a 3 year stabilizing plan when we go up is to drip feed new players in. For example sign a new center midfielder to start, sell Lansbury, Hourihane then has competition to start for a year. Sign a defensive midfielder, sell one of Whelan or Jedinak (not both) The reason we went down two years ago is because we tried to sign a complete new team and it failed miserably. It's pretty much why Blues are in the position they are currently in also. In my opinion, with the squad we currently have, playing as they currently are we would do well against a lot of the lower Premiership teams, add a bit of quality to that and we would have a fair shot of finishing near the top of the bottom half of the Prem. Keep adding over the 3 years and the club will be back competing in the league. Unfortunately gone are the days of getting promoted and immediately signing a load of world class footballers. Perhaps you do not watch the Premier League, Wilko, but I do, and, in my opinion, our present team could not compete with the teams at the lower end of it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I’d worry about next season once we know what league we are in. At present we still need at least another proven goalscorer and even with Birkir doing ok I’d have a DM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 hours ago, villaglint said: Word to the wise @HanoiVillan do not write the words bomb vest on the Internet. Oh shhhhhiiii...... Dont worry. The powers that be will be focused on those internet forums which are full of crazy, partisan lunatics spouting messages of anger and bitterness and with an obvious disdain for authority and those in charge................ uh-oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Wasn't someone supposed to be signing in the last 24 hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 5 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: For what it's worth, this is what our squad could potentially look like come June after contract expirys and loans ending etc. Steer De Laet, Bree, Richards, Chester, Elmohammady, Elphick, Green, Suliman, Taylor. Adomah, Thishbola, Lansbury, Jedinak, Whelen, Lyden, Grealish, Hourihane, Gardner, Bjarnasson,, O'Hare, Hogan, McCormack, Davis, Kodja, Hepburn-Murphy. That is the squad we could be left with technically come June 2018 if we are promoted. TBH thats only 2-3 players from being good for a promotion challenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, Junxs said: Wasn't someone supposed to be signing in the last 24 hours? Looks like it may have been the 24th after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 If we go up I'm almost certain we will instantly sign Snodgrass and Johnstone for continuity. I've no idea what happens if we don't go up. More loans I expect and I imagine we would try for Snodders again at least. No idea how it will shake down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 13 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: If we go up I'm almost certain we will instantly sign Snodgrass and Johnstone for continuity. I've no idea what happens if we don't go up. More loans I expect and I imagine we would try for Snodders again at least. No idea how it will shake down. Failure to go up and I think snodgrass would be out of our reach financially , I’m hoping we have a clause to sign him for an agreed fee based on promotion . if we are still in this league I’d expect more of the young lads to figure next season and some high profile departures . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) If we go up there will be complete overhaul similar to when Watford came up. At least 10 signings. Whoever the manager is he will have the biggest challenge he would have ever faced. Edited January 22, 2018 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: If we go up there will be complete overhaul similar to when Watford came up. At least 10 signings. Whoever the manager is he will have the biggest challenge he would have ever faced. As long as the majority of players are signed for the start of preseason it shouldn’t matter. Getting a proven PL goalscorer should be first priority. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, dn1982 said: As long as the majority of players are signed for the start of preseason it shouldn’t matter. Getting a proven PL goalscorer should be first priority. That would cost our whole kitty. I think the majority of signings will come from abroad. Risky but only way to find value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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