meregreen Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) Have to say, Southgates, at best mediocre club management record, was hardly justification for him being appointed England manager. The FA do have form for these kind of uninspiring appointments though. Guess he does as he’s told and doffs his cap to them. Frustrating, but so predictable from them. Edited October 17, 2023 by meregreen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 5 hours ago, Dodgyknees said: Southgate goes to Glastonbury to litter pick Southgate sits down to have a piss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted October 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Southgate sits down to have a piss. HA yeah that'd be embarrassing!!! 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 14/10/2023 at 00:17, Mantis said: He's still living off the 2018 WC and 2020 Euros, where the only top tier team we managed to beat in those entire 2 tournaments were a below-par Germany on home soil. In a way I almost wish we'd crashed out on penalties to Colombia in 2018. Casual fans are much more involved with national as opposed to club football so all they see is "first semi-final since 1990, first final since 1966" without really looking beyond that. The FA probably would have kept him anyway. Worth remembering they kept Capello after the 2010 world cup and Hodgson after the disastrous 2014 world cup where they finished bottom of the group! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Interesting debate on Talkshite today. Has Southgate or Clarke at Scotland done a better job. Even though most of the media think Southgate is great, they all, including the callers chose Clarke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyeddie Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 2 hours ago, jacketspuds said: Southgate sits down to have a piss. and stays seated to wipe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Selects Phillips event though he's barely played since moving to city. Absolute a## clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Phillips and Maguire . If either of those cost us the game i think we will see people turning on him like never before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: Phillips and Maguire . If either of those cost us the game i think we will see people turning on him like never before. Henderson to come on later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 6 hours ago, meregreen said: Have to say, Southgates, at best mediocre club management record, was hardly justification for him being appointed England manager. The FA do have form for these kind of uninspiring appointments though. Guess he does as he’s told and doffs his cap to them. Frustrating, but so predictable from them. Wasn't he also ushered in from the England U21's? I also seem to recall at first that he didn't want the job. Shame the FA never listened... mind you, nothing new there either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, NeilS said: I do wonder sometimes whether Southgate is trying to get the sack. Wtf is that line up. He’s actually terrible at spelling and wrote in his diary that he wants to get sacked off for the first time in his life. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, NeilS said: I do wonder sometimes whether Southgate is trying to get the sack. Wtf is that line up. I do think he's had enough and is on he's way after the Euros, which is why he has stopped listening to any outside influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Picking these players time after time . Big nose is trolling everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Wasn't he also ushered in from the England U21's? I also seem to recall at first that he didn't want the job. Shame the FA never listened... mind you, nothing new there either. He got the job in 2016 after the Allardyce experiment went wrong. Came in as a afe pair of hands. 7 years later . Still safe hands but mentally seems like he has lost it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Look forward to him shitting the bed at another knock out game and sitting on his hands playing for penalties again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 I dont know if I'd be happy to win the Euros if there's a chance Southgate might stay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AvfcRigo82 Posted October 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: I dont know if I'd be happy to win the Euros if there's a chance Southgate might stay? I don't want us to win anything under this absolute rocket polisher. 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted October 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) Gareth Southgate is a dour, strange mirror English men (mostly) hold up to understand themselves. There is so much utter bullshit projected onto him. It's astounding, really. It does him far more credit than any football coach deserves. If only he were a bit more interesting. I think that's what really drives so many English men crazy about him. He's too sane. There is only one pinnacle, and it's not the European championship, and it's as rare as radium to win it. You know how hard it is. But Southgate is held to a set of nearly impossible standards, and when he mostly doesn't fail, it seems to irk some people even more than losing. It's weird. Damned if does, damned if he ... When his football isn't great, then the conversation turns to culture wars, and his every nuanced word is sliced, diced, and analyzed to a red and white mush. It's going to be a wait to see whether Southgate stays or not. It's frustrating for 1966 to be so far back in our history now. Southgate is so phlegmatic, too, but he's been getting a bit less so lately, and that has more English people divided, yet again. I think that's never going to change, overall. He won't ever equal Alf Ramsey, we're assured, but even if he did, I don't think it would matter much. By the way, can you imagine how the completely bizarre, splendidly ****-in-the-head Alf Ramsey would fare being asked to deal with all the shit Southgate does, a man who was more insecure than a three-legged cat chased by a pack of wolves? "Alf, what is your opinion on Israel? Alf, what do you think about oil money and football?" Wish we could have seen that. He would have been sectioned, the poor man. My only good theory about Southgate is that he reminds too many people of how boring they are. Spoiler And that includes me. 1966 Champions 1st 6 5 1 0 11 3 Squad Qualified as hosts Ramsey 1970 Quarter-finals 8th 4 2 0 2 4 4 Squad Qualified as defending champions Ramsey 1974 Did not qualify 4 1 2 1 3 4 1978 6 5 0 1 15 4 Revie 1982 Second group stage 6th 5 3 2 0 6 1 Squad 8 4 1 3 13 8 Greenwood 1986 Quarter-finals 8th 5 2 1 2 7 3 Squad 8 4 4 0 21 2 Robson 1990 Fourth place 4th 7 3 3 1 8 6 Squad 6 3 3 0 10 0 1994 Did not qualify 10 5 3 2 26 9 Taylor 1998 Round of 16 9th 4 2 1 1 7 4 Squad 8 6 1 1 15 2 Hoddle 2002 Quarter-finals 6th 5 2 2 1 6 3 Squad 8 5 2 1 16 6 Keegan, Wilkinson, Eriksson[note 2] 2006 7th 5 3 2 0 6 2 Squad 10 8 1 1 17 5 Eriksson 2010 Round of 16 13th 4 1 2 1 3 5 Squad 10 9 0 1 34 6 Capello 2014 Group stage 26th 3 0 1 2 2 4 Squad 10 6 4 0 31 4 Hodgson 2018 Fourth place 4th 7 3 1 3 12 8 Squad 10 8 2 0 18 3 Allardyce, Southgate[note 3] 2022 Quarter-finals 6th 5 3 1 1 13 4 Squad 10 8 2 0 39 3 Southgate Edited October 18, 2023 by Marka Ragnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted October 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Marka Ragnos said: Gareth Southgate is a dour, strange mirror English men (mostly) hold up to understand themselves. There is so much utter bullshit projected onto him. It's astounding, really. It does him far more credit than any football coach deserves. If only he were a bit more interesting. I think that's what really drives so many English men crazy about him. He's too sane. There is only one pinnacle, and it's not the European championship, and it's as rare as radium to win it. You know how hard it is. But Southgate is held to a set of nearly impossible standards, and when he mostly doesn't fail, it seems to irk some people even more than losing. It's weird. Damned if does, damned if he ... When his football isn't great, then the conversation turns to culture wars, and his every nuanced word is sliced, diced, and analyzed to a red and white mush. It's going to be a wait to see whether Southgate stays or not. It's frustrating for 1966 to be so far back in our history now. Southgate is so phlegmatic, too, but he's been getting a bit less so lately, and that has more English people divided, yet again. I think that's never going to change, overall. He won't ever equal Alf Ramsey, we're assured, but even if he did, I don't think it would matter much. By the way, can you imagine how the completely bizarre, splendidly ****-in-the-head Alf Ramsey would fare being asked to deal with all the shit Southgate does, a man who was more insecure than a three-legged cat chased by a pack of wolves? "Alf, what is your opinion on Israel? Alf, what do you think about oil money and football?" Wish we could have seen that. He would have been sectioned, the poor man. My only good theory about Southgate is that he reminds too many people of how boring they are. Reveal hidden contents And that includes me. 1966 Champions 1st 6 5 1 0 11 3 Squad Qualified as hosts Ramsey 1970 Quarter-finals 8th 4 2 0 2 4 4 Squad Qualified as defending champions Ramsey 1974 Did not qualify 4 1 2 1 3 4 1978 6 5 0 1 15 4 Revie 1982 Second group stage 6th 5 3 2 0 6 1 Squad 8 4 1 3 13 8 Greenwood 1986 Quarter-finals 8th 5 2 1 2 7 3 Squad 8 4 4 0 21 2 Robson 1990 Fourth place 4th 7 3 3 1 8 6 Squad 6 3 3 0 10 0 1994 Did not qualify 10 5 3 2 26 9 Taylor 1998 Round of 16 9th 4 2 1 1 7 4 Squad 8 6 1 1 15 2 Hoddle 2002 Quarter-finals 6th 5 2 2 1 6 3 Squad 8 5 2 1 16 6 Keegan, Wilkinson, Eriksson[note 2] 2006 7th 5 3 2 0 6 2 Squad 10 8 1 1 17 5 Eriksson 2010 Round of 16 13th 4 1 2 1 3 5 Squad 10 9 0 1 34 6 Capello 2014 Group stage 26th 3 0 1 2 2 4 Squad 10 6 4 0 31 4 Hodgson 2018 Fourth place 4th 7 3 1 3 12 8 Squad 10 8 2 0 18 3 Allardyce, Southgate[note 3] 2022 Quarter-finals 6th 5 3 1 1 13 4 Squad 10 8 2 0 39 3 Southgate I think you're being too analytical. Southgate came in when the England job had been something of a poisoned chalice for some time. It was this way because of so much money coming into club football combined with a set of club managers who actively discouraged their players from being part of the England team. But that's OT. He managed to build training camps that made everyone feel included and for that, he should be commended. (It also coincided (IMO) with a change of attitudes amongst players who realized that club loyalty was less important than their own "brand." But again thats another huge topic entirely.) In 2018 with a group of fairly inexperienced internationals, in a new fuzzy warm and friendly environment, England surprised a few people and performed quite well when given an easy draw/ But ultimately they fell apart when confronted with a decent opposition (which was basically an aging Modric FFS.) But Southgate became "the one" and the FA persisted. And basically its become a very boring team, led by a tactically inept cheerleader for his buddies, who thinks he's better than he his. Blowing past National League level opposition for tournament qualification is nothing but a money spinner for FIFA, the FA & the TV companies. As much as @HanoiVillan wants to be positive about him this is only going to end one way. He doesn't have the nouse or courage to win a tournament for England so he will finish a failure. If he does manage to win Euro 24, many of us who see through him will forever argue that it was only because of the amount of talent England is currently blessed with. (which is a lot) Also, we are on a Villa forum and the guy decided that Middlesborough was a better team to play for than AVFC. Middlesborough FFS. He's an arrogant cocknose - which would be Okay if he knew football, but I strongly believe he is inept. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted October 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, villa4europe said: 2 CBs have a combined total of 138 minutes in the PL this season Phillips has 70 Trippier has 0 at left back Journalist: Gareth, you picked 4 players who have played a total of 2 games plus stoppage time in their respective league this season. Could you not find players who are playing regularly for their clubs and in form? "Muffled mumbling as journalist is escorted away and never invited to an FA press conference again." I'm not saying he should be subjected to "Turnip Head" or "Wally with the Brolly" treatment. But the amount of leeway he's had is unheard of. Edited October 18, 2023 by TheAuthority 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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