villa4europe Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Genie said: The other elephant in the room is Grealish, he should be nowhere near the squad based on form. Again, who should be? Bowen? Sancho? We don't have a crazy in form winger making the argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Genie said: The other elephant in the room is Grealish, he should be nowhere near the squad based on form. He could barely get a game when he was in form for us, but now he's at City it doesn't matter how he's playing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giro Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: But not Maguire? Maguire hasn’t let England down in the past, only reason why I think he’s there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Again, who should be? Bowen? Sancho? We don't have a crazy in form winger making the argument I guess it shows up a bit of an area of weakness, and a frustration that when he was one of the most exciting players in the country he was over looked. Now he’s dropped from those very high standards and generally not doing what made him special he’s in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Genie Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Giro said: Maguire hasn’t let England down in the past, only reason why I think he’s there He plays for Man United. If he was at Villa and played the same he’d be watching it on TV. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Genie said: He plays for Man United. If he was at Villa and played the same he’d be watching it on TV. 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 How the hell is Phillips in the squad can't be on form that's for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Maguire is so bad he forces England to play a back 5 to cover for him. Madness he starts every game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkiller1981 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 37 minutes ago, Giro said: Maguire hasn’t let England down in the past, only reason why I think he’s there Germany and hungry games say different albeit not a tournament game. the squad announcement has left me flat as I expected it would. I’m pleased that Maddison’s in there because he deserves it on form same as Bellingham but you just know he will have Phillips having played 20 minutes all season and mount who other than against us has been woeful all season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 33 minutes ago, Giro said: Maguire hasn’t let England down in the past, only reason why I think he’s there Neither has Mings, and Mings plays every weekend. A player out of form should not be picked, lbh. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: But that's the problem, easy to say maguire shouldn't be there (he shouldn't...) but are mings, tomori or guehi really screaming from the rooftops that they should be? England are not as strong right now as they're made out to be, as always The difference is, the three you have mentioned are in better form than Maguire. That speaks for itself. Edited November 10, 2022 by sheepyvillian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 This will be his last tournament in charge. Most of the fans know he's a fraud and now the press/media are starting to come onboard he won't be lasting long. We had our best ever chance in the Euro's against Italy and he blew that. He's not going to turn into a magician and get a tune out of this bunch in the WC. He is England's Gerrard. I don't think i've ever gone into any major tournament supporting England feeling so underwhelmed, meh, cba as this one and it's all down to him. Pretty much the same feeling during the latter few games with Gerrard. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Regarding players in form, how as Sterling made the squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 42 minutes ago, dubbs said: How the hell is Phillips in the squad can't be on form that's for sure. Been injured, but still, shouldn't really be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: Again, who should be? Bowen? Sancho? We don't have a crazy in form winger making the argument olise maybe even Eze have done more than Grealish this season and can play wide 1 hour ago, Mozzavfc said: Maguire is so bad he forces England to play a back 5 to cover for him. Madness he starts every game He is to Southgate what McGinn was to Gerrard Edited November 10, 2022 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Maguire, Henderson, Phillips, Coady and Rashford are all ridiculous inclusions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Zatman said: olise maybe even Eze have done more than Grealish this season and can play wide There's a wider criticism of Southgate there and how he handled the last cycle, especially after we'd been relegated from the NL This is Wilsons first call up in 3 years, maddisons in 2 or 3, eze and olise never got a look in, I'm sure he called ESR up once, Bowen got some games and obviously tomori and guehi but he continously just played his plan A every game rain or shine, he picked the starting 11 for the world cup 18 months ago and he's too stubborn to change it, I think he's known maybe as many as 20 of the players who were going since last summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmirch Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 We’ll go out in the group stage. Excuses will be the heat, fixture congestion and no Golf. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, villa4europe said: There's a wider criticism of Southgate there and how he handled the last cycle, especially after we'd been relegated from the NL This is Wilsons first call up in 3 years, maddisons in 2 or 3, eze and olise never got a look in, I'm sure he called ESR up once, Bowen got some games and obviously tomori and guehi but he continously just played his plan A every game rain or shine, he picked the starting 11 for the world cup 18 months ago and he's too stubborn to change it, I think he's known maybe as many as 20 of the players who were going since last summer The thing about Southgate is I dont think he watches football or understands it but as he played once he thinks he is an expert. Most of his call ups are Sky 6 guys or players the media are talking about Rice/Bowen/Bellingham. I dont think he has ever called up a player that is unfashionable but in form maybe Targett 2 years ago for example when England had gaps at left back He has probably never been to Italy to watch Tammy or Tomori live but I have seen Deschamps at Premier League games and Brazil manager was at Villa vs Newcastle recently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 The inclusion of Phillips sums Southgate up. Absolute Sky 6 chodeslurper. I genuinely don't want us to score a goal in this tournament. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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