Popular Post markavfc40 Posted December 3, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) I think tactically he got it spot on again. We were away to an in form side and we had restricted them to creating next to nothing until we made an error and they scored with their first effort on target. I felt we looked comfortable until that error and looked the most likely to score by catching them on the break. Grealish came on just before they scored and looked like he could do damage high up the pitch but as soon as they went one up it resulted in them sitting back and didn't give Grealish the space he would have been afforded when we were level. A few players let the manager down today with their performance but overall whilst today's result is disappointing I think once again I saw enough to suggest Bruce is tactically clued up enough to see us into the play off's at least this season. Edited December 3, 2016 by markavfc40 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) You can talk about team selection being wrong after any defeat....it can be a cop out. We were out muscled out fought and closed down....we wasn't allowed to forge many attacks and when we did we looked uncomfortable with the physicality of the opposition. I think you could have picked any formation from our squad and the result would have been the same. also you can't legislate for individual poor decision making....they rattled us physically and we wasn't able to settle and when we did have chances we lacked composure mainly due to the aforementioned. Steve is only just here.....he has much to do, but he will do it. Ps However I think our lads did work hard Edited December 3, 2016 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 3, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 3, 2016 I still think something isn't quite right up front. The amount of money we have spent and the calibre of players in this league we are simply not scoring enough. The interplay between whichever options we pick just looks laboured. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 20 minutes ago, sidcow said: I still think something isn't quite right up front. The amount of money we have spent and the calibre of players in this league we are simply not scoring enough. The interplay between whichever options we pick just looks laboured. There is a difference in spending lots of money and spending lots of money on quality players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 3, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 3, 2016 20 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: There is a difference in spending lots of money and spending lots of money on quality players. I don't think there is anything wrong with the calibre of players either. I Just don't think they play well together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 3, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 3, 2016 30 minutes ago, sidcow said: I don't think there is anything wrong with the calibre of players either. I Just don't think they play well together. Exactly but then they were put together by a guy who seemingly had no idea of how he was going to use the players he was signing. Di Matteo's idea of a plan was but as many high scoring strikers from the Championship as he could then shoehorn them all in the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted December 3, 2016 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2016 I'm not sure I agree with the criticism of his set up and tactics. First half we were in control and should have capitalised on some good chances. Westwood feeding Gardner for example should have been a goal. And Leeds WERE very dangerous from set pieces and wide areas so those wondering why Bruce set up with half an eye on that, there's your answer. Second half was disappointing and maybe we should have made some changes sooner, but I don't thin he did anything massively wrong. We lost the game, so obviously he didn't do everything right, but I don't see this as a huge negative. We lost away form home to one of the league's form teams 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted December 3, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 3, 2016 I thought we set up well today and looked like we had a game plan. It didn't come off but I was very impressed with Leeds. Such is the Championship though. You'll always get the odd shit result/performance no matter who you are. What matters is how we approach next weeks game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 You can get by with a poor midfield when you play teams who are inferior to you. when you play teams like Leeds who are big and powerful....you can't get away with it.....they stifled us we missed good opportunities and the goal keeper looks iffy. our strikers need to bully the opposition more too.....goals are not always on a plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 5 hours ago, TRO said: You can talk about team selection being wrong after any defeat....it can be a cop out. We were out muscled out fought and closed down....we wasn't allowed to forge many attacks and when we did we looked uncomfortable with the physicality of the opposition. I think you could have picked any formation from our squad and the result would have been the same. also you can't legislate for individual poor decision making....they rattled us physically and we wasn't able to settle and when we did have chances we lacked composure mainly due to the aforementioned. Steve is only just here.....he has much to do, but he will do it. Ps However I think our lads did work hard Not for me, I thought we almost totally stopped Leeds playing for much of the game, our pressing was excellent. until they scored I thought only one Team was going to win it, and even afterwards I always felt we would get back in it. It only really went pear shaped when we had to go all out for 10 minutes, and failed to put any convincing play together. Play like that Away and most weeks we will get a Point as a minimum. Sooner or later though we need to work out how to create more real chances - wont need to be much more, because I don't see us conceding many, but needs to be more than at present. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6065_Villa Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 10 hours ago, sidcow said: I still think something isn't quite right up front. The amount of money we have spent and the calibre of players in this league we are simply not scoring enough. The interplay between whichever options we pick just looks laboured. I think he needs to play Kodger up top as he's the most dangerous out of our top 4 then 2 decent wingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 4, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 4, 2016 23 hours ago, AVTuco said: You're right TRO - one loss and I'm back to worrying.. I'm back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 On 19/11/2016 at 06:50, KSV said: starting rudy today was a mistake I think. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 33 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: starting rudy today was a mistake I think. It wasted kodjia for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, Richard said: It wasted kodjia for sure I agree, I think maybe he felt his height would give them problems. I think not starting ayew was a mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 SB has done great so far We have holes in the first 11 and he can only work with what he's got. He's been excellent at setting us up to hide our weaknesses and fruit our strengths. When you have to select Hutton, Westwood, Gardner, Gaby or Gestede to make up the 11. Unless everything goes according to plan and the opposition doesn't have the cuth to suss you out, we can get away with it. Those Shit footballers drag down the likes of an inexperienced young GK, a slow CB, an ageing DM and an uncohesive front line. If we could replace the shit with just average Ch players we'd be more than ok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 12 hours ago, sidcow said: I still think something isn't quite right up front. The amount of money we have spent and the calibre of players in this league we are simply not scoring enough. The interplay between whichever options we pick just looks laboured. We have a below average midfield. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 14 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: SB has done great so far We have holes in the first 11 and he can only work with what he's got. He's been excellent at setting us up to hide our weaknesses and fruit our strengths. When you have to select Hutton, Westwood, Gardner, Gaby or Gestede to make up the 11. Unless everything goes according to plan and the opposition doesn't have the cuth to suss you out, we can get away with it. Those Shit footballers drag down the likes of an inexperienced young GK, a slow CB, an ageing DM and an uncohesive front line. If we could replace the shit with just average Ch players we'd be more than ok You say those players are shit but most would get in most championship sides. They are decent enough at this level but just not performing. Espically gestede. He has been a massive disappointment for me this season. Regardless what division we are in come summer definitely think we should sell him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 4, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 4, 2016 Another thing, whilst I am mainly happy with our defence we do not keep enough clean sheets for my liking. If we are going to concede at least one every game and we are not scoring huge amounts it will put press on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) 13 hours ago, sidcow said: I don't think there is anything wrong with the calibre of players either. I Just don't think they play well together. The problem is none of them actually try to play together. Kodjia, Adomah and Ayew's first thought when they get the ball is head down and run with it. Ayew is especially guilty of this even in his own half. They don't try to link up. Not many clever one two's, no pass and quickly move into space. Maybe we need to give McCormack another go as he is different to that and will try to link play together. I think Grealish is also essential now as the attacking midfielder and I don't now think it would reduce the solidity of the midfield as Grealish is now showing himself to be as good as Gardner and Westwood in terms of putting his foot in. I think had he have been fully fit Bruce would have started him yesterday as he wanted to press high up the pitch as shown by Gardner and Westwood on a number of occasions being the two players furthest forward. Had Grealsih been able to start I think the result could well have been different. I think he is becoming that important to us now. Edited December 4, 2016 by markavfc40 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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