Eastie Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 17 minutes ago, TRO said: I will be in Spain on Tuesday, so don't think I have walked away in disgust. fingers crossed....thats all i have left. scouting. Fleeing the country , you say 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) Is Gabby the curse? Edited August 13, 2017 by GENTLEMAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, AshVilla said: I think the future has already been decided tbh. We had our chance to get rid of him and didn't take it. Any manager that comes in now i feel will struggle. A decent manager should take this squad and get promotion - Bruce is not motivating them to perform - maybe he has lost the dressing room and the players know he will go before they do . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) 46 minutes ago, GENTLEMAN said: Is Gabby the curse? You said what I've been thinking - seems a common denominator in recent years Edited August 13, 2017 by Eastie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) 31 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: But like what? There are non-specific comments being made that seem to me to be an attempt to excuse Bruce's ineptitude. It really is just down to, specifically, the manager. And, probably, to his coaching team. I have just wrote a few in another post, but AB i am not excusing him, but I am alarmed at where we have found ourselves even so early......some may not be. I have a suspicion that we will be in the same place again, with the next possible man....just my hunch, we will see if its unfounded. You say his ineptitude, but that sits slightly uncomfortable with me, because thats like saying he is poor at everything.....I didn't see many complaining when we bought many of the signings which he must have been instrumental in bringing in....its very hard for any individual to be rubbish at everything. you see, I agree he has to take the responsibility.....but you equally are unsure....you say " the manager and probably his coaching staff" that in itself breeds doubt.....but he is responsible for them too, yeah. I have to be honest, I have no sure idea of why we managed to serve up Saturdays game, but I am reluctant to hang him for everything in light of so many before him having much the same fate. But we may all see soon. Edited August 13, 2017 by TRO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 13 minutes ago, GENTLEMAN said: Is Gabby the curse? well.....what can you rule out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted August 13, 2017 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2017 Yesterday might have turned me. Utterly pathetic performance. Bruce needs to sort things out incredibly quickly, or he'll lose whatever waning support he has left. My support is hanging by a thread. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 17 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: Most of the players have been here for a year or less. It would not be possible for them to have that mentality in that short period. In your opinion, how long does it take for an attitude that accepts failure to "infect" new players? Or perhaps you think the overall effort and attitude you saw in Cardiff was just fine? I will agree with you to a point. I feel confident that John Terry and Onomah are both disturbed by the lack of passion they witnessed. But complacency spreads quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted August 13, 2017 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2017 I'm just so sick of being so shit. All the time. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: I'm just so sick of being so shit. All the time. Were not just shit yesterday we wasn't even competitive. We didn't even try it was a complete and utter capitulation. I'd have fined them a weeks wages for poor performance had it been FM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: I'm just so sick of being so shit. All the time. do you know Steve....for all the rhetoric on here That is such a poignant and apt statement......and I think it just about sums all of our thoughts up. Bravo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 20 minutes ago, GENTLEMAN said: Is Gabby the curse? I suspect the curse was just sold to Reading. Having said that, Gabby can f**k off too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted August 13, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, TRO said: I have a suspicion that we will be in the same place again, with the next possible man....just my hunch, we will see if its unfounded. If we consider the rot goes deeper than the manager then it can go no deeper than the coaching staff and the players in terms of the playing side. That being the case then he manager is responsible for bringing in his coaching staff. That then leaves the players. Since Bruce has arrived we have signed 11 players. You'd hope he would have signed players with good characters. That he believed would respond to his methods. Players that had it within them to influence others in a positive way. Certainly that is what I saw in the Terry and Whelan signings. I personally don't think the club is littered with bad eggs certainly no more than you'd find in most clubs. McCormack stepped out of line and was quickly banished. Tshibola is rumoured to have fallen out with coaching staff and has been moved on. Gabby has played up in the past but since Bruce arrived has knuckled down. Same with Grealish. I don't think the club is rotten and can't be fixed. You just need the right man steering the ship. One that can handle the huge expectation levels for this club at this level. One that can handle the fact we are currently, for now, the biggest fish in this pond and the fact that other teams will raise their game 10% wanting to take our scalp. One that can instill belief in the players that they are good enough to handle that, instill that bit of arrogance and confidence that they can play in front of 30k+ expectant, demanding fans every other week and face up to opponents giving their all in wanting to beat Aston Villa. I thought Bruce was that man but it seems he isn't. We find that man then we will be fine as there is nothing rotten or running so deep at this club that can't now be fixed by a good manager. Edited August 13, 2017 by markavfc40 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnock1984 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Reading, Norwich and Bristol - how many points does he need to keep his job? I don't think we can lose another game so quickly if we want promotion, so I honestly think he needs 7 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, nnock1984 said: Reading, Norwich and Bristol - how many points does he need to keep his job? I don't think we can lose another game so quickly if we want promotion, so I honestly think he needs 7 points. I think we will get 2 points at most from those 3 games and that's me being optimistic Edited August 13, 2017 by Eastie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, nnock1984 said: Reading, Norwich and Bristol - how many points does he need to keep his job? I don't think we can lose another game so quickly if we want promotion, so I honestly think he needs 7 points. 7 points and the 2 wins cannot be 1-0 and us getting battered for large parts of the game. For me it's as much about what we see from the performances as the results themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kentish Villan Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, nnock1984 said: Reading, Norwich and Bristol - how many points does he need to keep his job? I don't think we can lose another game so quickly if we want promotion, so I honestly think he needs 7 points. We won't get a single point from the 3 clubs you have just mentioned. Only positive is that he should be gone after the Bristol game. Hopefully.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 I can see 3 losses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post terrytini Posted August 13, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2017 27 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I'm just so sick of being so shit. All the time. If it helps Steveo I don't think you are shit ALL the time ... 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejoker Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 45 minutes ago, GENTLEMAN said: Is Gabby the curse? Quite possible. He is the only constant at the club in the past 7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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