Popular Post jayEm Posted December 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) Quote Don’t be surprised if you see our superstore double in size this summer as we are going to be very, very active with merchandising." Moichandizing! Where the real money in football is made! Good grief Heck, can you try and sound a little less like a corporate reptile? Edited December 19, 2023 by jayEm 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted December 19, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2023 If it's really a transport issue and we can somehow force the council's / government's hand to get the station / transportation sorted then we still have another year or maybe even two to build the stadium in time for the Euros, but it doesn't really sound like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattVillaPortsmouth Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 It makes sense - we have a good season this year, closing a stand and losing both revenue and as he said fortress VP makes no sense - we can add 10k seats but we aren’t doing transport, car park etc. So we lose fans during 2 years, then it’s a pot mess when it’s open - I agree with this 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Only the other day Street was talking about plans for Witton station. This is a cost/benefit analysis. They have decided it is safer to screw us with high ticket prices rather than invest in the grounds. Shame on you NWSE. Golden chance missed to move Villa Park to the 21st Century. Over 18 months of work now cancelled. We will never close the gap to the top teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: There must be more to it. I suspect the ST waiting list as either dropped or been exaggerated and hecks concerned about the demand not being there anymore I don't think it's anything to do with the waiting list which I believe is accurate, it's more likely due to cost. They are probably seeing how much it's going to cost to do this north stand (and villa village) redevelopment and thinking that it's half the cost of a brand new stadium. Getting the cranes needed to build it, access to the site etc. all hugely problematic. All that increases costs probably to an amount where it's not a feasible project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PaulMcGrath_5 Posted December 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2023 Just now, The Fun Factory said: Only the other day Street was talking about plans for Witton station. This is a cost/benefit analysis. They have decided it is safer to screw us with high ticket prices rather than invest in the grounds. Shame on you NWSE. Golden chance missed to move Villa Park to the 21st Century. Over 18 months of work now cancelled. We will never close the gap to the top teams. Everyone read this and try not to laugh, I dare you. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Is there a way to tart up the current North Stand and fill in the corners without having to close the stand? I have to say I'm disappointed as the plans look amazing and I'm worried that we may end up like Old Trafford with the ground becoming shabbier while we just chase the commercial dollar so much. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 This guy keeps making poor decisions and two fails this morning already. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, MattVillaPortsmouth said: It makes sense - we have a good season this year, closing a stand and losing both revenue and as he said fortress VP makes no sense - we can add 10k seats but we aren’t doing transport, car park etc. So we lose fans during 2 years, then it’s a pot mess when it’s open - I agree with this It has to be done ar some point. It has been let fester for too long as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Fun Factory Posted December 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Everyone read this and try not to laugh, I dare you. Have a look at what revenue other top 6 stadiums bring and what Villa Park does. It isn't a laughing matter. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshVilla Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I can see the logic behind it. We're having an amazing season so far, and if the next few years do bring Champions League football and the real possibility of trophy contention, it'd be a shame to have a reduced capacity - with would have a detrimental effect on the atmosphere and also a loss in matchday revenue. It's still frustrating, as the North Stand redevelopment has been a can that's been seemingly kicked down the road for years now, and it's in dire need of improvement. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 No Euros then I assume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, nick76 said: This guy keeps making poor decisions and two fails this morning already. You can be sure he hasn't made this decision on his own. It's probably a £100M+ project to rebuild the north stand. One person doesn't just come along and decide I don't like this, scrap it. There are obviously other reasons for this change that won't be shared with fans. Transport, merch etc. are just all a facade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayEm Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: Is there a way to tart up the current North Stand and fill in the corners without having to close the stand? I have to say I'm disappointed as the plans look amazing and I'm worried that we may end up like Old Trafford with the ground becoming shabbier while we just chase the commercial dollar so much. This is my concern. Heck's mindset seems to be to chase every opportunity to extract cash from the fans. What you end up with is a stadium full of people who can afford £60 cheapest seats or £190 match day experiences, expensive food and drink, etc. and absolutely terrible atmosphere. I'm no businessman but I'm not convinced that there isn't an alternative approach where you go all in on making the match day experience for your average fans the best possible -- well priced and easily available food and drink from quality vendors, reasonably priced tickets, working toilets, etc. and in return you get a stadium full of happy, buoyant fans that turn the it into a fortress. The Heck approach just feels like an unimaginative, short-termist dead end to me. Edited December 19, 2023 by jayEm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 the government aren't upgrading the train station or the bus infrastructure which means that we will have a huge headache should we add 10k more fans im not sure we can do it with what is currently around VP, its just not good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 They're announcing the shelving of plans via a video posted on the website & it's not been posted to any socials. It's so incredibly cynical. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, JoshVilla said: I can see the logic behind it. We're having an amazing season so far, and if the next few years do bring Champions League football and the real possibility of trophy contention, it'd be a shame to have a reduced capacity - with would have a detrimental effect on the atmosphere and also a loss in matchday revenue. It's still frustrating, as the North Stand redevelopment has been a can that's been seemingly kicked down the road for years now, and it's in dire need of improvement. In theory the bonus CL revenue would more than make up for the reduced capacity. One season in the CL would pay most of the cost of the north stand re-development even if we did only have 36K in the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: No Euros then I assume I’m not sure how this works, surely for the Euro’s we would’ve had to commit to increasing by then as it was formally documented in the bid. Can we legally withdraw that now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Not surprised at all about this. Been well discussed on here/social media about how hard it was going to be for non season-ticket holders to get tickets for the next couple of years with the reduced capacity and with there being a chance of Champions League football next season it makes sense for the club to try and make sure they get as much match day income as possible. Looking at what his said I don't have much confidence that the North Stand will be redeveloped any time soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted December 19, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2023 None of it reads to me like they're delaying because of travel, or even potential CL football next season. It reads to me like it ain't happening. To be fair it feels like it's been coming, there has been a feeling for a while that something is amiss with it being knocked down next summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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