Duck Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 5 hours ago, sidcow said: I wonder if this is what Bruce was alluding to talking about lack of fitness - that they are just too tired to press, personally I just think it is laziness and they are not prepared to put in that dirty hard work. Didn't garde or sherwood or one of our other recent managers complain that players just weren't fit enough.... Have a feeling it was Garde. But seeing as we've replaced a lot of the squad and the fitness coach... How would this be possible? Surely they've been working at fitness since last year now. I could understand if they were demotivated and lethargic towards the end of last season but right now there should be no excuses about why the team isn't giving 100% physically or mentally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 5 hours ago, briny_ear said: I have witnessed two relegations to the second division in my lifetime - 1967 and 1987. The first time our problems were so fundamental that we slipped down a further division before recovering our top league status. Eight seasons later. The second time GT Mk 1 managed to turn the squad round quickly and we only had to spend one season out of the top flight. Must say at present this is feeling much more like 1967 than 1987. Thanks. That makes me feel a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 The fitness has been an issue for years to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 I know there is an 11 point cushion but given how inept performances have been lately and the inability to secure signings I am slightly worried. If Kodjia gets injured at the AFCON then things might go south very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Just now, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: I know there is an 11 point cushion but given how inept performances have been lately and the inability to secure signings I am slightly worried. If Kodjia gets injured at the AFCON then things might go south very quickly. Ridiculous overreaction. We're not going down or up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: I know there is an 11 point cushion but given how inept performances have been lately and the inability to secure signings I am slightly worried. If Kodjia gets injured at the AFCON then things might go south very quickly. Don't be ridiculous, Kuwabatake Sanjuro-san 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mantis said: Ridiculous overreaction. We're not going down or up. This. Last 3 seasons, 41, 42 and 45 points would keep you up. Bottom end looks pretty weak this year compared to most and we already have 35 points with 20 games to go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 It may be a slight overreaction but the team just got outclassed by a poor Wolves team, and is in terrible form for a good while. If it wasn't for a few moments of brilliance from Kodjia and Grealish's goal against Wigan then they would have been a lot closer to the bottom. Very lucky win against Burton too, Villa aren't any better than the relegation candidates at the moment. An 11 point cushion might be just enough if new signings don't materialise quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: It may be a slight overreaction but the team just got outclassed by a poor Wolves team, and is in terrible form for a good while. If it wasn't for a few moments of brilliance from Kodjia and Grealish's goal against Wigan then they would have been a lot closer to the bottom. Very lucky win against Burton too, Villa aren't any better than the relegation candidates at the moment. An 11 point cushion might be just enough if new signings don't materialise quickly. I'd happily put money on it that we finish further from relegation (in terms of points) than we currently are now - forget actually going down. It's easy when you pick and choose. We went to Brighton and could've easily hammered them and they're supposedly one of the best. We won at Reading, one of the form teams. Haven't lost a single game at home. Edited January 14, 2017 by kurtsimonw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 1 minute ago, kurtsimonw said: I'd happily put money on it that we finish further from relegation (in terms of points) than we currently are now - forget actually going down. If Hourihane and Lansbury are signed asap I'd agree but I'm worried if we are stuck with the majority of this dross for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: It may be a slight overreaction A bit bigger than slight I think. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Am I the only one worried that the teams recent performance levels would be amongst the worst in the league then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 GTFO - I mean come on, relegation? Jeeez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: Am I the only one worried that the teams recent performance levels would be amongst the worst in the league then? You should be the only one. Knowing this forum, you probably aren't, but you should be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 I'm not going to backtrack much more but after a tough game against Preston next week (a much better team than Villa at the moment) the fixtures are Bristol, Brentford, Forest and Ipswich. Failure to pick up a couple of wins there will leave us in a tough situation. Maybe the thread should be closed until then, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 10 minutes ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: I'm not going to backtrack much more but after a tough game against Preston next week (a much better team than Villa at the moment) the fixtures are Bristol, Brentford, Forest and Ipswich. Failure to pick up a couple of wins there will leave us in a tough situation. Maybe the thread should be closed until then, No, even that wouldn't leave us with *that* much of a tough situation. We basically need 2 wins and 4 draws, or 3 wins and a draw, to be pretty much safe from relegation. We're an awful lot closer to 'safe' than you seem to realise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 1 minute ago, HanoiVillan said: No, even that wouldn't leave us with *that* much of a tough situation. We basically need 2 wins and 4 draws, or 3 wins and a draw, to be pretty much safe from relegation. We're an awful lot closer to 'safe' than you seem to realise. Exactly. Put it this way, Villa picked up 9 points in the last 20 games last season. Anyone who seriously thinks we're dropping a division, spending £50m and not at least equaling that is mental. Even more so when you consider Bruce has picked up 25 points in 15 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 I'm fuming at today (and a lot of this season) but there's no way we're getting rated. We're an average Championship team. Maybe next year we'll have regressed enough for relegation but not quite yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirdle Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 what a state we are in if this thread should even exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limvillian Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 I don't really think we are going to get relegated but if we really really want to get out of this division over the next couple of season I think this is our only realistic option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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