NurembergVillan Posted June 22, 2017 Moderator Share Posted June 22, 2017 I was blocked on Twitter yesterday by Paul Oakley, the General Secretary of UKIP. He's the first person to block me on social media. I think. He'd tweeted along the lines of "Nigel needs to get his khakis back on and get back into the frontline so the Remoaners can't betray the will of the people". I asked him a simple question for clarity, but perhaps the "bore off" bit was what offended him so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 22, 2017 Moderator Share Posted June 22, 2017 18 hours ago, chrisp65 said: Queen trolls Prime Minister with EU themed hat. And we know how carefully every detail is planned for events like this, which means there is absolutely no way that's an accident 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I was a big remainer and would still like to remain but my original reasoning for voting remain was because the EU were our only insulation against a strong neoliberal austerity first right wing government. Now the Tories have been removed of a lot of their power it's not quite as important. Obviously it will still be bad for the economy overall but at the moment we've taken back control ourselves by removing their majority and forcing them to backtrack on certain policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, darrenm said: I was a big remainer and would still like to remain but my original reasoning for voting remain was because the EU were our only insulation against a strong neoliberal austerity first right wing government. Now the Tories have been removed of a lot of their power it's not quite as important. Obviously it will still be bad for the economy overall but at the moment we've taken back control ourselves by removing their majority and forcing them to backtrack on certain policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: That'sthejoke.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 **** this arsehole Quote Theresa May single-handedly blocked a plan to immediately guarantee the future rights of the 3m EU citizens in the UK last summer, George Osborne has revealed. The then-Home Secretary was the only member of the Cabinet to oppose David Cameron, who “wanted to reassure EU citizens they would be allowed to stay”, after Brexit. “All his Cabinet agreed with that unilateral offer, except his Home Secretary, Mrs May, who insisted on blocking it,” revealed the Evening Standard, now edited by Mr Osborne. The proposal was discussed “in the days immediately after the referendum” exactly one year ago, said the newspaper. The revelation comes after EU citizens in the UK protested that Ms May’s “generous” offer – outlined last night - will leave them with less rights after Brexit than “British jam”. The Prime Minister’s proposals also ran into trouble from other EU leaders who warned of “open questions” and a “long, long way to go” before agreement. Since reaching No 10, Ms May has faced down pleas to act unilaterally, insisting she would only offer guarantees to EU citizens if British ex-pats in the EU were given the same protection. The stance fitted with her hardline approach to immigration, as she vowed tough new controls would be a “red line” in the Brexit negotiations. Earlier this year, MPs threw out a Lords amendment requiring Britain to act immediately after the Prime Minister promised worried Tory backbenchers she would do exactly that. Last night, she told a Brussels summit that she was willing to give the 3m EU citizens in Britain a new “settled status”, allowing them to stay if they have lived here for five years. People gaining it would secure rights on healthcare, education and benefits broadly similar to those enjoyed by EU citizens in the UK currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) Happy birthday to the absolute cluster **** that was the Leave vote. Edited June 23, 2017 by Wainy316 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Happy birthday to the absolute cluster **** that was the Leave vote. ENEMY OF DEMOCRACY! DENIER OF THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 19 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Happy birthday to the absolute cluster **** that was the Leave vote. Nothing wrong with the leave vote , just the people leading the negations 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) At least Maybot has allowed EU-citizens to stay in her framework as part of the negotiations. That'll at least make some of the EU negotiators happy. In other news Macron seems to be stating the obvious about why Britain voted to leave. He wants to tighten employment regulations so that nationals are offered jobs first before immigrant workers. On the other hand, I don't see how British youth are going to be picking asparagus or fruit any time soon - so I guess he's referring to jobs further up the line. He also spoke about immigration from East and South EU causing the wages to stay pretty stagnant across the richer part of the union. Hopefully they'll listen to him in Brussels because as of now any shady company will justify social dumping by hiring someone from a poorer part of the union rather than hiring a British citizen as they are more expensive. Edited June 23, 2017 by magnkarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 45 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: **** this arsehole Both Osbourne and May are total shits. I don't get how he's biting the hand that fed him for so long now just because he's an editor. He's become a mix between two of the worst things in our society - lying politicians and politically coloured, partial editors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: **** this arsehole Quote Last night, she told a Brussels summit that she was willing to give the 3m EU citizens in Britain a new “settled status”, allowing them to stay if they have lived here for five years. We'll have to wait and see the detail on that, though. I gather the initial stuff is due on Monday. If it's the same 'five years' as currently then it's five continuous years with various other requirements in there (including the stuff about Comprehensive Sickness Insurance, for example). Edited June 23, 2017 by snowychap Sickness for Health Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 2 hours ago, tonyh29 said: Nothing wrong with the leave vote , just the people leading the negations A typo, or something more profound? Dr Freud, meet Tony... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, tonyh29 said: Nothing wrong with the leave vote , just the people leading the negations If only there had been some way to predict at the time of the vote that the likes of David Davis were clueless imbeciles, unaware that we wouldn't be able to negotiate a trade deal with Germany. Or (allegedly) that Ireland would be staying with the EU rather than coming with us. Apart from all the things that he was saying and doing at the time, obviously. Edited June 23, 2017 by ml1dch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Good start... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-donald-tusk-theresa-may-citizens-offer-below-expectations-eu-european-council-brussels-a7804751.html Quote The European Union has torpedoed Theresa May’s proposals on the rights of three million EU citizens in the UK after Brexit, warning it would make their situation worse. “The UK’s offer is below our expectations and risks worsening the situation for our citizens,” said Donald Tusk, the European Council’s President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Cameron, Osborne, May, Fox, Johnson, Davies, "Hunt"... How comical that the tories have tried to portray themselves as the party of competence. This lot couldn't find their own arse in the dark using both hands. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 19 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Good start... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-donald-tusk-theresa-may-citizens-offer-below-expectations-eu-european-council-brussels-a7804751.html Donald Tusk can **** off, the man is a grandstanding clown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 41 minutes ago, Risso said: Donald Tusk can **** off, the man is a grandstanding clown. +1. They want extra territorial authority for the ECJ in the UK, which is obviously a non-starter. Will be interesting to see what the full proposal is next Monday, until then the EUeratti are sounding off because they like to be heard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 2 hours ago, peterms said: Cameron, Osborne, May, Fox, Johnson, Davies, "Hunt"... How comical that the tories have tried to portray themselves as the party of competence. This lot couldn't find their own arse in the dark using both hands. Yes, and Donald Tusk, Claude Junker, Guy Verhofstadt and the like are just as bad on the other side. Career politicians that know very little about the real world but were lucky enough to be born into the political elite in their countries. All these three brand themselves as equal opportunity liberals when in fact they earn so much on the EU project that it's overwhelming. All three could forgo their EU salaries with no problem and live in luxury for the rest of their lives. Yet when someone has to actually contribute to the EU in taking in immigrants their 3 countries are amongst the worst. Poland has one of the most far-right governments in Europe, Luxembourg is pissing off everyone around them for being a tax haven and Belgium has the biggest identity crisis in modern world politics. Macron will surely have pissed off a lot of these folks when he said that EU is in dire need of reform yesterday. How long will it take before he becomes the new laughing stock in Brussels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StefanAVFC Posted June 23, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, magnkarl said: Yes, and Donald Tusk, Claude Junker, Guy Verhofstadt and the like are just as bad on the other side. Career politicians that know very little about the real world but were lucky enough to be born into the political elite in their countries. Tusk: Quote Tusk was born in Gdańsk in northern Poland.[4] His father, also named Donald Tusk (1930–1972), was a carpenter, and his mother, Ewa (née Dawidowska) Tusk (1934–2009),[5][6] was a nurse.[4] His grandfather Józef Tusk (1907–1987) was a railway official who was imprisoned at the Neuengamme concentration camp; later, as a former citizen of the Free City of Danzig, he was apparently conscripted by German authorities into the Wehrmacht. Later on, he was successful in joining the Polish Armed Forces in the West.[7] Tusk credits his interest in politics to watching a clash between workers on strike and riot police when he was a teenager.[4] He enrolled at the University of Gdańsk to study history, and graduated in 1980.[8] While studying, he was active in the Students' Solidarity Committee, a group that opposed Poland's communist rule at the time.[8] To claim Tusk was 'born into the political elite' whilst growing up in a Communist Poland is fairly amusing and shows a huge, fundamental misunderstanding of 20th century Poland. It was an easy line for you to throw out though. Juncker I'll grant you, but Verhofstadt seemed to get into politics in his uni days as far as I can see. Edited June 23, 2017 by StefanAVFC 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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