rodders0223 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 18 hours ago, Villan4Life said: Worked for United again when they needed someone to step up against Midtjylland. Why can't likes of Hepburn-Murphy, Davis, Calder possibly have same effect as Marcus Rashford tonight!! No reason they can't if they are going to be playing against pub teams too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) Garde recently cited he didn't feel anybody was mentally strong enough for the first team, while I might argue you don't know until you try them, there are plenty of match players about, I am happy he's made that clear to the youngsters. I used to watch some youth and reserve team games but I've moved away so am limited to highlights, from the little I've actually seen of game presence there isn't anyone that stands out, though I do think Sellars has something about him when in the final third. Also I do think at this time it's a good opportunity to try them, if they fail with the team so be it, you can always put them back in the under 21's where they'll get that winning feeling back. Edited February 26, 2016 by itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I was a 'good idea but no' with , 'think of the children ! type reasons. But having heard Garde say he doesn't get the effort out of the players in training (for which I'm afraid he also has to be marked down) I think they MUST play. ANY player who Garde thinks has shown less than 100% should be dropped, even if i'ts the whole Team. Then offer it to the kids, give them a chance and see if they sink or swim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 2 or 3 have to be given a go, there's no sense in playing the usual shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 8 hours ago, AntrimBlack said: This is not about throwing the dice to possibly bring through youth players. It is all about having a go with the team that stands the best chance of getting something in the games while we still have a glimmer of hope. When all hope is gone it may be different, but if you check out the press conference, he was indicating that he was not impressed by any of the youth players in the recent practice match. Fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 If there was a decent youth player I would expect Garde to have already played them as he has a poor opinion (and rightly so) of the current XI. Lyden hasn't disgraced himself so far- I would play him in the last 4/5 games at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 play them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Callum Robinson scored again. Seems to hit a bit of form as a substitute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 14 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: If there was a decent youth player I would expect Garde to have already played them as he has a poor opinion (and rightly so) of the current XI. Lyden hasn't disgraced himself so far- I would play him in the last 4/5 games at least. he hasnt even bothered trying to get Grealish on side though. Today was a perfect opportunity to try other players but went again for Sinclair and Gestede, starting to think he is trolling us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted February 28, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2016 Let the kids play and perhaps even sometimes win where they are playing. Losing and other bad habits should stay within our current group of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) steer, siegrist, lyden, lyons-foster, donacien, mason, kinsella, calder, robinson, seller and hepburn-murphy, even gardner all deserve a chance in the first team next season for sure, it will be disapointing to see any of them leave. Edited February 28, 2016 by AndyBM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 19 hours ago, Zatman said: he hasnt even bothered trying to get Grealish on side though. Today was a perfect opportunity to try other players but went again for Sinclair and Gestede, starting to think he is trolling us Grealish has been injured for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervillan78 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) I honestly don't rate our academy that highly, that's not a criticism of the club per se but it seems to be a symptom of modern football. If you think of our more recent graduates no-one really stands out. Arguably the one player who has the talent Grealish seems to lack the correct attitude to succeed . I've lost track of the number of academy graduates over the years that have been and gone. Even in more recent times of the gradates that have stayed at Villa Park, Baker and Clark for example always seem accident prone and have been openly criticised and as for Gabby... Probably our most successful graduate in recent years has been Gary Cahill, a player who was deemed surplus to requirements by MON and shipped off to Bolton to make way for Zat Knight. Even Albrighton, a player we released for nothing is probably having his best ever season with Leicester. A Leicester side that can realistically win a PL title and qualify for Champions League football. So, no at this stage in our season I wouldn't risk playing the kids. Next season though is a whole new ballgame. UTV Edited February 29, 2016 by Supervillan78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 29, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 29, 2016 On 2/28/2016 at 02:59, Zatman said: he hasnt even bothered trying to get Grealish on side though. Today was a perfect opportunity to try other players but went again for Sinclair and Gestede, starting to think he is trolling us Grealish is injured. Garde has played him several times and each time he's been utter shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 He's picked him about twice thats all. The rest have been shit over a lot more games. I guess our youngsters aren't as good as United, but they night at least offer a but more enthusiasm. I hate the football we are playing under Garde. I want a manager who is prepared to take risks. Yes might as well throw a few kids in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Watching the chelsea game, i couldn't help notice the difference in stature and athleticism between their youngsters and ours. It stood out a mile for me.....sure, Loftus-Cheek is a big lad, naturally, but they look leagues above our lads. Lyden might turn out ok.....but he seemed to me a shadow of them as thoroughbreds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted April 5, 2016 Author Share Posted April 5, 2016 TRO firstly thanks for bouncing this thread I looked for it for ages yesterday and couldnt find it! Secondly Chelsea's kids looked leagues above our first teamers never mind our kids. When Sherwood was here the one thing he said that I thought had some merit was that our kids would learn nothing playing against U21 kids week in week out. He felt they would learn more with games agains older pros , to teach them the real game. He wanted to play more behind closed door games for our U21 lot. He actually wanted a bigger cull of the lads and get some more in but thats another point. Chelsea have a load of players out on loan, a ridiculous amount. You cant help but think that having them playing proper league games for teams rather than a bunch of meaningless U21 games has helped them. Its another reason why I would be totally in favour of just playing a majority of kids for us for our remaining games, that and the fact that most of the current first team are a rabble of unprofessionalism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 i would play them in away games, not at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 8 minutes ago, TRO said: Watching the chelsea game, i couldn't help notice the difference in stature and athleticism between their youngsters and ours. It stood out a mile for me.....sure, Loftus-Cheek is a big lad, naturally, but they look leagues above our lads. Lyden might turn out ok.....but he seemed to me a shadow of them as thoroughbreds. Chelsea are picking the absolute top youths from across the globe and bringing them in early, then loaning them on dodgy deals to, for example, Dutch clubs (Vitesse). Of course they'll be miles ahead of ours. Loftus-Cheek is probably one of the rare English players to develop at Chelsea's academy (could be wrong here?) rather than being cherry picked and loaned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted April 5, 2016 Author Share Posted April 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, CarewsEyebrowDesigner said: i would play them in away games, not at home. Funny as I would do the opposite as potentially having a squad full of kids could diffuse the toxic atmosphere with the fanbase thinking it's not fair to have a go at the kids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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