markavfc40 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 I read a tweet earlier that said I miss the days when our PM’s most shameful moment was calling a bigoted woman a bigot. It is absolutely unbelievable how standards how dropped in government but even worse is just how much people will tolerate. Even now I wouldn't be confident of Johnson not winning another general election. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Boris Johnson's press chief spoke at No 10 party last year Quote Downing Street's press chief addressed No 10 staff at a party last Christmas that is now under investigation, it is understood. Jack Doyle, then deputy director of communications, gave a speech to 20-30 people at the gathering on 18 December. A source told the BBC there were food, drinks and games at the event. Downing Street said: "There is an ongoing review, and we won't be commenting further while that is the case". This is one of three government staff events currently being investigated by the UK's top civil servant, Simon Case. Mr Doyle, now Downing Street's director of communications, is understood to have also given out awards to the No 10 press team at the gathering. Link He did well keeping this secret from the Boss who absolutely has no idea about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Remember that time a man looked daft eating a bacon sarnie. Crazy days man. Crazy days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 9, 2021 Moderator Share Posted December 9, 2021 should be amusing if nothing else... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted December 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2021 As a gauge of just how bad this is, he’s even upset Starmer now. 1 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bannedfromHandV Posted December 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2021 Bozo was never fit to lead the country in the first place, let alone now. Its all well and good getting rid of him but how he got into this position in the first place is the true crime and is what needs reviewing and reshaping. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Latest in "not going away" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted December 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) It's easy to lose some perspective of what things were like when they were having this party that some people are arguing isn't really that big of a deal. I hope a few people don't mind me posting some examples of what was going on the very next day after they had their illegal night of wine, cheese, and party games. On 19/12/2020 at 16:39, Genie said: The mother in law is crying her eyes out, we were supposed to visit on Boxing day. Looks like we’ll adapt, spend a couple of hours with them on Christmas Day and have Christmas dinner on Boxing day. On 19/12/2020 at 16:41, rjw63 said: My step daughter lives in London. She booked a train ticket for Dec 23 and was going home on 27th, like the guidelines dictated. Now that's all down the shitter. She and the wife are in bits. On 19/12/2020 at 16:26, sharkyvilla said: That just takes the absolute piss. I'm starting to think I might have to be alone at Christmas which sucks balls but I could understand it, then there is stupid rules like that. On 19/12/2020 at 16:34, Chindie said: Since March, I've done the following outside of the house Dropped off a birthday card and present for my brother and chatted for a bit. Dropped off a birthday card and present for my sister and chatted for a bit. Dropped off a birthday card and presents for my girlfriend and chatted for a few minutes stood outside her house. Gone to a pharmacy a short walk away once a month. Gone to a corner shop once a week. Other than that, I've been alone, at home, working. I'm due to go to my sister's for Christmas. That'll be the first time I spend and length of time in a building that isn't my house in 9 months. On 19/12/2020 at 17:47, Rodders said: cancelled in Wales too. We've cancelled hosting partners parents. Not visiting mine on the 27th obviously. Re-arrange for February is the provisional plan. Not doing anything on 25th either This is what life was like for normal people, while they were ignoring the rules, having multiple parties, and laughing about it. And just for some comedy (no hard feelings, Mandy Lifeboats, you weren't to know) On 20/12/2020 at 09:47, Mandy Lifeboats said: If everyone followed the rules we wouldn’t be in such a bad place. Boris is a clown. But the British public should take as much blame. Edited December 10, 2021 by Davkaus 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 11 hours ago, markavfc40 said: I read a tweet earlier that said I miss the days when our PM’s most shameful moment was calling a bigoted woman a bigot. It is absolutely unbelievable how standards how dropped in government but even worse is just how much people will tolerate. Even now I wouldn't be confident of Johnson not winning another general election. That's the whole deal. Nothing matters it's all part of the "it's a load bllx culture" As long as big business can make profits in the UK who gives a shit about transport infrastructure, health service, health and safety, police numbers ? So long as white van man can work 80 hrs per week with no employment protection ....anything else is "A load of cobblers" The phrase Singapore on Thames never gained much traction - but It is 100% what has happened in the UK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Genie Posted December 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, hippo said: That's the whole deal. Nothing matters it's all part of the "it's a load bllx culture" As long as big business can make profits in the UK who gives a shit about transport infrastructure, health service, health and safety, police numbers ? So long as white van man can work 80 hrs per week with no employment protection ....anything else is "A load of cobblers" The phrase Singapore on Thames never gained much traction - but It is 100% what has happened in the UK. and we can see what Brexit was really about. Watering down of workers/human rights without the shackles of the EU. To think some people thought it was to improve things and raise standards. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Unbelievably shameful that people couldn’t be with dying loved ones or be reunited with family, but this party seemed perfectly acceptable for the people that attended . Having our basic freedom taken away, whist MPs party. The thing is I still predict that the conservatives will remain in power. How bad is that for Labour ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Rugeley Villa said: Unbelievably shameful that people couldn’t be with dying loved ones or be reunited with family, but this party seemed perfectly acceptable for the people that attended . Having our basic freedom taken away, whist MPs party. The thing is I still predict that the conservatives will remain in power. How bad is that for Labour ? Of course they will. I don't think any party has overturned an 80 seat majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 10, 2021 Moderator Share Posted December 10, 2021 42 minutes ago, hippo said: Of course they will. I don't think any party has overturned an 80 seat majority. If Labour are to form the next government, they don't have to have a majority, they need to be the party with the most seats If you take recent polling to be indicative (usual caveats), they currently may well be the largest party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Assuming this is true, I'm pleasantly surprised at how much this is cutting through. Crucially, when looking at the data from the Survation poll, it's not just a Johnson issue, but massively affecting the Tories as a whole. Favourability (changes with October): Johnson: Favourable 30% (-8) Unfavourable 53% (+11) Net -23% (-19) Starmer: Favourable 33% (+2) Unfavourable 35% (-3) Net -2% (+5) Conservative Party: Favourable 31% (-6) Unfavourable 47% (+6) Net -16% (-12) Labour Party: Favourable 34% (-) Unfavourable 41% (+1) Net -7% (-1) Maybe I should stick a tenner on a Labour/Lib Dem win next week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 14 minutes ago, bickster said: If Labour are to form the next government, they don't have to have a majority, they need to be the party with the most seats If you take recent polling to be indicative (usual caveats), they currently may well be the largest party Although thought to be fair to @hippo, that does still require the current majority of (technically, I believe) 79 to be turned into a majority of zero, and thus overturned. Labour don't even need to be the party with the most seats to end up in power. Unless there is something very obvious that I'm being daft and missing here, if an election happened today and the Tories had 290 seats and Labour had 280, Starmer would be almost certainly be Prime Minister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 minute ago, MessiWillSignForVilla said: Favourability (changes with October): Johnson: Favourable 30% (-8) Unfavourable 53% (+11) Net -23% (-19) Starmer: Favourable 33% (+2) Unfavourable 35% (-3) Net -2% (+5) "Any other leader would be twenty points ahead" as the old saying goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 10, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2021 Unfortunately we're still so far from an election that those figures may as well relate to a different universe. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Chindie said: Unfortunately we're still so far from an election that those figures may as well relate to a different universe. Indeed. As I'm fond of repeating, Labour had a 12 point lead in 2012 for all the good it did them in 2015. These polls showing Labour leads don't really mean anything - just like the ones over the last year that showed Tory leads didn't really mean anything either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted December 10, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, hippo said: Of course they will. I don't think any party has overturned an 80 seat majority. Whilst it wasn't an 80 seat majority, Labour did gain 146 seats in 1997 so it is definitely doable. The only chance for that happening at the moment is if the Tories completely implode over Boris and actually split and/or the backbenchers put in a vote of no confidence. Sadly I think it is more likely they will give him the push internally, blame all of the issues on him and Labour and then pull themselves together in time for the next election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Some Tory MP’s must be getting nervous that their boss is going to cost them their job and want changes at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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