Chindie Posted December 10, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2021 I don't think that'll be coming across their thoughts at all. They are years from an election still. Plenty of water will pass under the bridge. It's more likely that a few big names are making sure their knives are sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bickster Posted December 10, 2021 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2021 Bloody activist lawyers.... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 How many controversies can the met have with Cressida Dick in charge before it’s too many? Her and Boris rewriting the rules on what is sackable / resignable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, Genie said: Some Tory MP’s must be getting nervous that their boss is going to cost them their job and want changes at the top. Election is far away, but with a rise in covid cases, the party scandal, rise in the cost of living, I feel like Labour just need a couple of more punches before the house of cards starts falling down. Of course, once they get the election, they will f it up. We go again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 10, 2021 Moderator Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, ml1dch said: Although thought to be fair to @hippo, that does still require the current majority of (technically, I believe) 79 to be turned into a majority of zero, and thus overturned. Labour don't even need to be the party with the most seats to end up in power. Unless there is something very obvious that I'm being daft and missing here, if an election happened today and the Tories had 290 seats and Labour had 280, Starmer would be almost certainly be Prime Minister. Yes and possibly no. Because the obvious Elephant in the Room is the SNP and I've always found it hard to think that Labour could even get into a S&C deal with them. They only want one thing and Labour won't want to give it to them. Practically, the SNP only vote on Scottish matters but that is never taken into account with the absolute numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 10, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2021 Cressida Dick will only go when they run out of ways to reward her failures. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Election is far away, but with a rise in covid cases, the party scandal, rise in the cost of living, I feel like Labour just need a couple of more punches before the house of cards starts falling down. Of course, once they get the election, they will f it up. We go again. Labour won't win until they back down and enter a formal election agreement with the greens and lib dems over targeting which seats for each party in the marginals. They just need to swallow their pride. It will take another defeat in 2023/24 for them to realise this with a new leader. The North Shropshire by election in point the Tories will keep the seat because the anti vote will be spilt 3 ways. So we have another decade or so with this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Labour won't win until they back down and enter a formal election agreement with the greens and lib dems over targeting which seats for each party in the marginals. They just need to swallow their pride. It will take another defeat in 2023/24 for them to realise this with a new leader. The North Shropshire by election in point the Tories will keep the seat because the anti vote will be spilt 3 ways. So we have another decade or so with this. Lib Dems are currently 8/13 to win next Thursday, with Labour 50/1 and the Tories odds-against. I reckon it'll still be a Tory hold, but that's where the money is going. There isn't a formal agreement in place, but it seems like they are getting their act together a bit. It's not uncommon for by-elections, the harder thing is to try and replicate that on a wider scale at a general election. Edited December 10, 2021 by ml1dch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 10, 2021 Moderator Share Posted December 10, 2021 Whilst Partygate continues to run and run and run... Wallpapergate is fast coming up on the rails 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Boris has declared his full confidence communications chief Jack Doyle, after it emerged that he had spoken at last year's event. I’m really confused about how you give full confidence to a man who was involved in an illegal party you say never happened (and have said any findings of rule breaking will be handed to the police). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 10, 2021 Moderator Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Genie said: Boris has declared his full confidence communications chief Jack Doyle, after it emerged that he had spoken at last year's event. I’m really confused about how you give full confidence to a man who was involved in an illegal party you say never happened (and have said any findings of rule breaking will be handed to the police). Cummings is predicting that Doyle will be the sacrificial lamb in the New year but for now he has to stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, cyrusr said: Whilst it wasn't an 80 seat majority, Labour did gain 146 seats in 1997 so it is definitely doable. The only chance for that happening at the moment is if the Tories completely implode over Boris and actually split and/or the backbenchers put in a vote of no confidence. Sadly I think it is more likely they will give him the push internally, blame all of the issues on him and Labour and then pull themselves together in time for the next election. Teresa may went to the country with fox hunting in the manifesto ...!......and still won ! I don't see another labour victory on the horizon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, bickster said: Cummings is predicting that Doyle will be the sacrificial lamb in the New year but for now he has to stay Is it curious that they're seeming to completely ignore Cummings occasionally wandering up and pissing on their tent. I wonder what else he's sitting on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bickster Posted December 10, 2021 Moderator Share Posted December 10, 2021 Oh and that party, Cummings is on about, that was reported at the time.... (follow up thread for a Cummings / Owen Jones exchange where its hard to decide who is the bigger dickhead) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 With the election date reverting to the usual May unless a snap is called, would the next one be in 2024 or 2025? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted December 10, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, hippo said: Teresa may went to the country with fox hunting in the manifesto ...!......and still won ! I don't see another labour victory on the horizon. True, but the darkest hour is just before the dawn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) On 08/12/2021 at 13:08, ml1dch said: Guess it would be very awkward were the Prime Minister to deny that a party happened on November 13th. Only for that party to actually have been reported at the time. With apologies for The Heil link. Wednesday lunchtime wants it's revelation back. (Edit @bickster) Edited December 10, 2021 by ml1dch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 10, 2021 Moderator Share Posted December 10, 2021 14 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Wednesday lunchtime wants it's revelation back. (Edit @bickster) Was posted because @Davkauswas wondering what Cummings had up his sleeve. I claim no exclusivity Cummings revelation was that the other party was a red herring By the way, that makes you a much better journalist than Owen Jones (so much has happenned since Wednesday) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 I assume means Boris in Cummings tweets? What’s the meaning behind that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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