Rugeley Villa Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 10 hours ago, jones1328 said: What leaked video? My bad . Should have properly checked first. Missus showed me a video on fb that was circulating apparently from the Xmas party. Just checked and it’s an old video that has nothing to do with the event in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted December 11, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 11, 2021 Reports of an impromptu celebratory after work drinks at the Treasury on 25th November last year following the spending review. Kal-El neither present or aware of it, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted December 11, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 11, 2021 Is Boris's real issue here that people keep having parties in his house but not inviting him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ml1dch Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Well, that ain't a good look after the last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ml1dch Posted December 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2021 "No, I got loads of questions. I got one on tennis, one on the Suez Canal, loads. ..... OK, question 3: which canal links the Mediterranean with ... 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 He's as shocked as anyone that this happened 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) Incidentally, I wonder what made them think that they needed to put a bin liner over the security camera in that room. Probably a perfectly innocent reason behind that decision. Edit - fury mode off, it's just the folds of a curtain. Edited December 12, 2021 by ml1dch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Incidentally, I wonder what made them think that they needed to put a bin liner over the security camera in that room. If only Matt Hancock had thought of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 44 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Incidentally, I wonder what made them think that they needed to put a bin liner over the security camera in that room. Probably a perfectly innocent reason behind that decision. Reminds me of student halls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted December 12, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2021 “While it was a gathering of sorts, it was not social, the conduct was professional at all times. As for the question of attire by those in the picture, it is well known that tinsel has been part of the formal dress code for staff since the time of Disraeli…” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 12, 2021 Moderator Share Posted December 12, 2021 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 It was a ridiculous thing to argue and time has proven him wrong, but I think it's a bit of a weak effort digging up views from 25 years ago as if people should never change their opinions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 8 hours ago, Davkaus said: It was a ridiculous thing to argue and time has proven him wrong, but I think it's a bit of a weak effort digging up views from 25 years ago as if people should never change their opinions He was happy enough to spend his time writing in a national newspaper - on repeated occasions - trying to prevent fathers from being able to afford to spend time helping their partners with their newborn children. While he may have 'changed his opinion', I don't see anything about him being on paternity leave, I see a lot about him 'taking some time off' which is not the same as paternity leave, as the latter involves a formal claim on pay and employment rights that would otherwise be at risk; he is in a job where he doesn't have to worry about that shit. His opinons 25 years ago were complete shit, and I'm not going to object to some accountability for the crap he wrote, nor about people pointing out what a privileged hypocrite he is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 No evidence whatsoever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 12, 2021 Moderator Share Posted December 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: No evidence whatsoever TIme for me to donate to the Good Law Project for this case then 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 4 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: His opinons 25 years ago were complete shit, and I'm not going to object to some accountability for the crap he wrote, nor about people pointing out what a privileged hypocrite he is. Agreed completely wihth the bit in bold. Does he still think it now? Probably not. Did he ever think it in the first place? Who knows. I put him in the same bucket as Clarkson; willing to write outrageous things, to a deadline, for money. I'm certainly not wanting to protect the man, the reason I think it's not worth bringing up though, is it's the kind of thing easily brushed aside. I don't think his stupid views from 25 years ago matter a jot when his more recent outrageous views hardly stick, and the way political discourse tends to go is the weakest argument gets attacked, and I think there are far better, more effective sticks to beat him with. I will accept that it isn't necessarily the job of VT's Off Topic to set the standard for robust political strategy though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Davkaus said: Agreed completely wihth the bit in bold. Does he still think it now? Probably not. Did he ever think it in the first place? Who knows. I put him in the same bucket as Clarkson; willing to write outrageous things, to a deadline, for money. I'm certainly not wanting to protect the man, the reason I think it's not worth bringing up though, is it's the kind of thing easily brushed aside. I don't think his stupid views from 25 years ago matter a jot when his more recent outrageous views hardly stick, and the way political discourse tends to go is the weakest argument gets attacked, and I think there are far better, more effective sticks to beat him with. I will accept that it isn't necessarily the job of VT's Off Topic to set the standard for robust political strategy though I think I come at this slightly differently. The terrible shit he wrote in newspapers wasn't without consequence, just like the stuff Clarkson says isn't without consequence. It's a drag on society if people get to say outrageous stuff and not get pulled up on it. I agree that nobody really cares very much, but that doesn't mean it should just be ignored. On the last point, I think that's right, and I would go further and say that I don't want what I write to be limited to what the Labour party should decide to focus on. It's very much not our job to decide on attack lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted December 13, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 13, 2021 Despite it being stated last week that the rules were followed, the change to “I certainly broke no rules” suggests there always room under the bus for someone to keep Allegra company… Quote Asked about the allegations on Monday, the prime minister told reporters: "I can tell you once again that I certainly broke no rules. All that is being looked into. "Of course all that must be properly got into and you will be hearing from the cabinet secretary about it all." When asked to confirm Mr Case's investigation would look into his actions, Mr Johnson said: "He's looking at all these things. "We will report back on all that. I certainly broke no rules and [we will report back] as soon as we reasonably can." BBC link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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