Jonesy7211 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 26 minutes ago, Rds1983 said: I guess that's fair. If people have higher wages they'll be able to buy better anti-cancer drugs after health care is privatised. It's nice of him to confirm the Tory policy towards Covid has always been wealth before health. We all thought that anyway... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 …and remember, this is the very same prick, that a couple of weeks ago, made two announcements on the same day. Firstly, that the world had to ‘grow up’ and face the realities of climate change, and secondly that it was great that Brits were allowed to fly to DisneyLand again. The man is a nightmare. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 I have remarkably low expectations from this government, but I was blown away by those comments. Scum was being kind. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 3, 2021 Moderator Share Posted October 3, 2021 Posted for shits and giggles, there really is no beginning to this idiot's intelligence 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) Quote In plain sight, Boris Johnson is rigging the system to stay in power... ... It doesn’t sound like us. We like to tell ourselves that we live in a mature democracy, our institutions deep rooted. Political competition is brisk, never more so than at this time of year, as one party conference ends and another begins. This is not a one-party state. All it would require is Labour to get its act together – to which end it made a decent start this week – and, with a fair wind, the Conservatives would be out. It’s a consoling thought, but not a reliable one. Almost unnoticed, perhaps because it’s done with an English rather than a Hungarian accent, our populist, nationalist prime minister is steadily setting out to weaken the institutions that define a liberal democracy: the ones that might act as checks and balances on him. And he’s moving, Orbán style, to make it ever harder for his government to lose power. Grauniad This article brings together a number of issues that have been raised by others. You'll get greater detail from the likes of the Secret Barrister, who's been yelling from the rooftops about what the Tory Filth are trying to push through. Edited October 3, 2021 by Xann 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 I actually think wage growth would be fantastic . . . it's not that cancer and other health outcomes aren't also very important, but people in this country have seen flat or declining real-terms wages for a very very long time now, and it has had hugely negative effects on our politics and economy. If the Conservatives actually did lead to real-terms wage growth, that would be great, but wage increases are nominal, not real, because they are less than the rate of inflation, as Marr (for once doing his actual job) correctly points out in this clip: Notice how Johnson's 'rebuttal' doesn't actually rebut the point being made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Bluster, waffle and lie. Shit won't stick though, will it, it never does. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 3, 2021 Moderator Share Posted October 3, 2021 1 minute ago, HanoiVillan said: Notice how Johnson's 'rebuttal' doesn't actually rebut the point being made. It hardly ever does. Standard modus operandi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, bickster said: It hardly ever does. Standard modus operandi Tells you a lot about his estimation of the British political media IMO, that he didn't think they would be able to pin him on the real v nominal point. Sadly his low estimation is pretty much entirely correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Stroke of absolute luck there for my local tory MP. The company that gave him £15,000 to be an advisor has been awarded some contracts without having to tender. Lucky bugger, he should buy a scratch card. £60,000 a year top up over his MP salary for being an advisor to a few companies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdabush Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 8 hours ago, chrisp65 said: …and remember, this is the very same prick, that a couple of weeks ago, made two announcements on the same day. Firstly, that the world had to ‘grow up’ and face the realities of climate change, and secondly that it was great that Brits were allowed to fly to DisneyLand again. And then quoted Kermit the Frog. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 9 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: I actually think wage growth would be fantastic . . . it's not that cancer and other health outcomes aren't also very important, but people in this country have seen flat or declining real-terms wages for a very very long time now, and it has had hugely negative effects on our politics and economy. If the Conservatives actually did lead to real-terms wage growth, that would be great, but wage increases are nominal, not real, because they are less than the rate of inflation, as Marr (for once doing his actual job) correctly points out in this clip: Notice how Johnson's 'rebuttal' doesn't actually rebut the point being made. In addition to not challenging hard enough about the ONS stats, Boris waffling about "finally" seeing growth in wages, which have been "flatlining for the last 10 years" should have seen Marr pointing out that the last decade has been under the Tories. Therefore this flatlining is a huge failing of a Conservative government by Boris' own admission. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted October 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2021 49 minutes ago, StanBalaban said: In addition to not challenging hard enough about the ONS stats, Boris waffling about "finally" seeing growth in wages, which have been "flatlining for the last 10 years" should have seen Marr pointing out that the last decade has been under the Tories. Therefore this flatlining is a huge failing of a Conservative government by Boris' own admission. You're 100% right. They're able to do it though, not just because of the weakness of the media, but also because they keep ditching their leaders, which annoyingly seems to get everyone to start the clock all over again each time. Did Johnson vote against Osbornomics from 2015-2016? Did he ****. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Submitting the cheque to see if it bounces? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Xann Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 AKA Mr Hedge Fund, the former Goldmann Sachs man. Is it beginning to sink in yet? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 4, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: What a word removed. Such an old fashioned dinosaur view that people working from home don't do anything. I'd wager most companies have seen no difference or even an increase in productivity with people working from home. And if they haven't then fair enough, get them back in the office. But don't tar everyone with the same brush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 03/10/2021 at 09:15, chrisp65 said: …and remember, this is the very same prick, that a couple of weeks ago, made two announcements on the same day. Firstly, that the world had to ‘grow up’ and face the realities of climate change, and secondly that it was great that Brits were allowed to fly to DisneyLand again. The man is a nightmare. Labour would have said worse 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 4, 2021 Moderator Share Posted October 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Stevo985 said: What a word removed. Such an old fashioned dinosaur view that people working from home don't do anything. I'd wager most companies have seen no difference or even an increase in productivity with people working from home. And if they haven't then fair enough, get them back in the office. But don't tar everyone with the same brush He's not talking about companies, he's talking about public employees There are huge backlogs of work in the public sector caused by home working. Whether that be Passport Office, Home Office, DVLA, local councils and they are just the ones I know about I'm not defending what he's said but I think it's wrong not to acknowledge that there isn't an issue too, there most definitely is an issue in the Public Sector, some places like our local council are barely functioning and they don't seem to even have a semblance of a plan to get back to some sort of approximation of normality. It's causing a real problem for companies like the one I work for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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