markavfc40 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) I think the bigger question here is why was the prick knighted in the first place. Edited November 9, 2017 by markavfc40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted November 9, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: I think the bigger question here is why was the prick knighted in the first place. Oh that one is easy. Gongs for the boys (13 if memory serves) by the departing Cameron which just so happened to give the Tories a majority by one in the Lords by utter coincidence. What are the chances..... we’ll quite.... about on a par with bumping into the PM of Israel while on your jollybobs. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 9, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2017 31 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Oh that one is easy. Gongs for the boys (13 if memory serves) by the departing Cameron which just so happened to give the Tories a majority by one in the Lords by utter coincidence. What are the chances..... we’ll quite.... about on a par with bumping into the PM of Israel while on your jollybobs. He’s not in the Lords, he’s an MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted November 9, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, bickster said: He’s not in the Lords, he’s an MP. I know... poorly worded by me, I meant Cameron’s honours list did that not that Fallon was a Lord. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 5 hours ago, tonyh29 said: he's denied some allegations ..... the one that seems to have caused his resignation was after he attempted to kiss a 29 year old political reporter ....on top of the hand on the knee allegation ( non event) and Rudd's inappropriate comments claim (denied) ) tbh I'm not really sure that's enough grounds to remove a knighthood from someone ? if it transpires there is more to it then yep prosecute and do whatever needs to be done but without trivialising matters I'd kinda want a bit more than he tried to kiss a woman who he's shared drinks with a few times ... His comment was something about how his behaviour had 'fallen short of the standards expected of the armed forces' or something, no? His tactic seems to be to admit to bad behaviour in the general sense, and then deny every specific instance of it, but I think he has made an admission of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post peterms Posted November 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: His comment was something about how his behaviour had 'fallen short of the standards expected of the armed forces' or something, no? His tactic seems to be to admit to bad behaviour in the general sense, and then deny every specific instance of it, but I think he has made an admission of sorts. Yes. He has admitted that his behaviour is incompatible with holding office. We don't know the full details, but it was always obvious that the Hartly-Brewer knee incident was not the problem. The Leadweight allegations look more like knifing him while the opportunity presents itself rather than a genuine concern. The attempted kiss is embarrassing but could have been brushed off as a misunderstanding. It's hard to imagine there is nothing more. In resigning, he makes comments about the standards expected of the armed forces, as though he is subject to a different and, we are invited to assume, higher standard than everyons else (though the armed forces don't seem to me to be the place to look for high standards of conduct in male-female relations). He has also made comments about things being acceptable 15 years ago (no, they weren't). He seeks to portray himself as the victim not the perpetrator. If the had the good grace to accept that he was in the wrong and should go, that would be an end of it. This hypocritical and self-serving bullshit just adds another layer of wrongdoing. What an utter tool. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Yes, I thought his comments about the 'standards of the armed forces' were complete shit as well. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted November 9, 2017 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2017 9 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Yes, I thought his comments about the 'standards of the armed forces' were complete shit as well. You can't say things like that in the week before Poppy Christmas. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 On 9 November 2017 at 23:35, peterms said: Yes. He has admitted that his behaviour is incompatible with holding office. We don't know the full details, but it was always obvious that the Hartly-Brewer knee incident was not the problem. The Leadweight allegations look more like knifing him while the opportunity presents itself rather than a genuine concern. The attempted kiss is embarrassing but could have been brushed off as a misunderstanding. It's hard to imagine there is nothing more. In resigning, he makes comments about the standards expected of the armed forces, as though he is subject to a different and, we are invited to assume, higher standard than everyons else (though the armed forces don't seem to me to be the place to look for high standards of conduct in male-female relations). He has also made comments about things being acceptable 15 years ago (no, they weren't). He seeks to portray himself as the victim not the perpetrator. If the had the good grace to accept that he was in the wrong and should go, that would be an end of it. This hypocritical and self-serving bullshit just adds another layer of wrongdoing. What an utter tool. These "standards expected of the armed forces". If a night out in Colchester is anything to go by, the bar isn't set stratospherically high. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Quote Beeb link A former Scotland Yard chief was aware pornography had allegedly been found on Damian Green's computer during a 2008-9 police probe, he has told the BBC. Sir Paul Stephenson, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner between 2009-11, said he was briefed about the claims but regarded them as a "side issue". ... Speaking to the BBC, Sir Paul said he thought the claim about Mr Green "wasn't relevant to the criminal inquiry" into Home Office leaks, which began in October 2008 and briefly led to Mr Green's arrest. "I regret it's in the public domain," he said. "There was no criminality involved, there were no victims, there was no vulnerability and it was not a matter of extraordinary public interest." Sir Paul added that it was not Scotland Yard's role to "police the workplace". ... Indeed. Now can we write this shit off and get back to the actual politics and the utter turds running the shit show, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) So it's okay for an MP to have porn on their work computer right? I would guess that the computer and the internet connection were paid for either directly or indirectly with taxpayer money too. That's a disturbing thought, your taxes contributing towards Damian Green tapping one out to "Badly Packed Kebabs 4". Edited November 12, 2017 by PompeyVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, PompeyVillan said: So it's okay for an MP to have porn on their work computer right? It's a workplace issue and not a police/crime matter (as long as the material is legal - it would be ironic if it fell foul of the Audiovisual Media Services Regulations 2014). Edit: But obviously only amusing as the material's from 2008. Edited November 12, 2017 by snowychap 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 12, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, snowychap said: It's a workplace issue and not a police/crime matter (as long as the material is legal - it would be ironic if it fell foul of the Audiovisual Media Services Regulations 2014). Can that law be applied retrospectively? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, bickster said: Can that law be applied retrospectively? I thought about that afterwards and edited my post accordingly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 12, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 12, 2017 Gove on Marr - Marr showed him up for being the total gobshite that he is He's Boris' mate again, thinks he’s wonderful and doing a great job The total word removed of words removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 3 hours ago, PompeyVillan said: That's a disturbing thought, your taxes contributing towards Damian Green tapping one out to "Badly Packed Kebabs 4". Do I need to have seen 1-3 to understand this one? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Xela said: Do I need to have seen 1-3 to understand this one? Don't try and claim that you haven't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 52 minutes ago, Xela said: Do I need to have seen 1-3 to understand this one? To be honest, the narrative is the same for each film in the series. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 4 hours ago, Xela said: Do I need to have seen 1-3 to understand this one? Have you read the books ? I think everyone has by now, It's basically the same 3 books spread out over 4 films (Madness to make 4 films IMO and the 3D adds nothing at all.). You can watch them in any order as they make no sense at all. As someone said above the Narrative is strong throughout, though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 7 hours ago, PompeyVillan said: Damian Green tapping one out to "Badly Packed Kebabs 4". That's very unfair. He's put the episode behind him and is getting on with his work. Well, I suppose that's what he meant when he said he was "knuckling down". 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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