villa89 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Its true though in a sad way, better win rate, better success by keeping us up and getting us to a cup final unlike Lambert pathetic semi final showing yet he is the one who gets all the criticism Lol at defending Sherwood, especially when you highlight Lambert poor semi final showing and ignore the laughable performance Sherwoods team put on in the final. He's a terrible manager and that's why he'll never have a career as one. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 4 hours ago, Stevo985 said: That's because it was obvious that there was way more wrong with the team under Sherwood. The guy was a joke. Absolutely. A complete fraud of a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I remember fondly the days when everything bad that ever happened to Villa (and most likely the whole rest of the world as well) was down to MON. Now the burden seems to have been passed lock stock and barrel to Tim Sherwood. Somewhere in the depths of southern America, General K is smiling to himself. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 52 minutes ago, villa89 said: Lol at defending Sherwood, especially when you highlight Lambert poor semi final showing and ignore the laughable performance Sherwoods team put on in the final. He's a terrible manager and that's why he'll never have a career as one. big difference between losing to probably the best Premier League team in the calendar year and a League 2 team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 I'm not going to defend Sherwood but some of the blame IS ridiculous. I don't care how bad a manager you are, there is no way any manager can have such an influence so many months after he's departed! I don't think it's possible to destroy a teams mindset to such a degree that there is no recovery. People are using a weak link to make them feel better about what remains - the players. Sherwood may well have been a big problem but people must see now that the players simply aren't good enough and that's biggest issue. Our current manager can't even get a win out of this bunch, Sherwood isn't so admired in the footballing world that any tactics or words he used on our players have destroyed them forever! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyC Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 for all of sherwoods faults he kept us up last season. the transfers made in the summer are the main reason we are where we are, were those transfers sherwoods or the boards though? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 18 minutes ago, jackbauer24 said: I'm not going to defend Sherwood but some of the blame IS ridiculous. I don't care how bad a manager you are, there is no way any manager can have such an influence so many months after he's departed! I don't think it's possible to destroy a teams mindset to such a degree that there is no recovery. People are using a weak link to make them feel better about what remains - the players. Sherwood may well have been a big problem but people must see now that the players simply aren't good enough and that's biggest issue. Our current manager can't even get a win out of this bunch, Sherwood isn't so admired in the footballing world that any tactics or words he used on our players have destroyed them forever! I agree. Sherwood is a joke of a manager and will never get a manager job at a top club again but our current predicament is down to the fact that we took the team that finished 17th and sold/released Benteke, Delph, Cleverly and Vlaar, the spine of the team and in all probability our 4 best players. There was little chance of recovering from that, especially not with a bunch of unknowns from foreign leagues replacing them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Sorry but blaming this summer basically ignores the last five years and make it sound like this season just happened in isolation 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 All the managers we've had in the last 5 years will all have played a small part in the relegation, some more than others but we've been slowly creeping down the table since September 2010. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 3 minutes ago, VillaChris said: All the managers we've had in the last 5 years will all have played a small part in the relegation, some more than others but we've been slowly creeping down the table since September 2010. Exactly, the one constant throughout is the owner who appointed the managers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 1 hour ago, briny_ear said: I remember fondly the days when everything bad that ever happened to Villa (and most likely the whole rest of the world as well) was down to MON. Now the burden seems to have been passed lock stock and barrel to Tim Sherwood. Somewhere in the depths of southern America, General K is smiling to himself. I don't because that was never the case. Just because people in the past have pointed out that he pissed so much money up the wall doesn't mean anybody's ever thought everything at the club was his fault. Likewise, I don't see anybody blaming Sherwood for everything either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 I remember fondly the days when everything bad that ever happened to Villa (and most likely the whole rest of the world as well) was down to MON. Now the burden seems to have been passed lock stock and barrel to Tim Sherwood. Somewhere in the depths of southern America, General K is smiling to himself. I don't because that was never the case. Just because people in the past have pointed out that he pissed so much money up the wall doesn't mean anybody's ever thought everything at the club was his fault. Likewise, I don't see anybody blaming Sherwood for everything either. I don't think you're looking too hard then! [emoji6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam3773 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Positive: we haven't been beaten this year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 We're 3rd in the 2016 premier league table **** you Watford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 All the managers we've had in the last 5 years will all have played a small part in the relegation, some more than others but we've been slowly creeping down the table since September 2010. Exactly, the one constant throughout is the owner who appointed the managers Gabby has been a constant too. It's all his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 11 hours ago, briny_ear said: I don't think you're looking too hard then! Ok then, find me someone who's blamed everything on O'Neill or Sherwood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 With 2015 finished and us being the worst performing team in the country, I'd like to take this opportunity to hold my hands up and admit that I have been overly negative over the last 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 20 hours ago, Richard said: Sorry but blaming this summer basically ignores the last five years and make it sound like this season just happened in isolation You are right Richard.....But This summers transactions was the straw that broke the camels back. This has been going on for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw_nuff Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Think of all those early nights you can have not having to wait until midnight to see your team fail to score on the last game on MOTD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam3773 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 I love the media. I read earlier something about the predictions for this weekend on the BBC. Villa are "out with the empties at the end of this season" no matter what. Sunderland, however, are still in it and "firmly in the fight to survive". Is 4 points and 4 more goals all it takes to go from 'definitely, 100% certainly gone' to 'in a fight to stay up!' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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