lexicon Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I haven't really been able to find out much about him - can't tell if his loan moves were successful ones or not but it seems that for 22, he has very little senior experience - which is obviously quite a risk for us. A risk in what way? "he has very little senior experience" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I'm going to hazard guess and say that we didn't have a great deal of money left in the pot but its not like he has come to be a guaranteed first choice. We've now got Lescott, Richards, Clark(e), Senderos, Okore, Illori and Crespo who can all play centre back. I'd call that competition for places, something we haven't had for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Ok. I'm wondering what the risk is to us? We're not exactly short on defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjaacckk91 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Why are you guys putting Ilori as a RB or LB? He is the future CB of the portuguese national team alongside Paulo Oliveira from Sporting CP. He is a CB, and i don't recall seeing him playing as a RB or LB. You can see him here against England (Euro U-21) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srQ7RUUpIa0 Italy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWyfFdzbZZw Sweden at the final - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GfDsCm3VLQ As for the pronunciation of his name as He-lo-ri Good post, thanks. From the clips looks very comfortable on the ball, and seems to read the game pretty well. The first clip of the Italy game made me laugh a little, because he did exactly what Clark should have done at the weekend for their 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacketspuds Posted September 2, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2015 It pisses Liverpool fans off that we've signed him, and that's good enough for me. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I'm going to hazard guess and say that we didn't have a great deal of money left in the pot but its not like he has come to be a guaranteed first choice. We've now got Lescott, Richards, Clark(e), Senderos, Okore, Illori and Crespo who can all play centre back. I'd call that competition for places, something we haven't had for a long time. Nobody's going to argue with that - competition is healthy, hopefully he'll be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Ok. I'm wondering what the risk is to us? We're not exactly short on defenders. I can't really tell if you're being obtuse for the sake of it or not - I'll humour you this time. If he plays, we're putting an CB in with absolutely zero premier league experience and very little senior experience. Seeing as experience is very important when it comes to defending, this presents a risk on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjaacckk91 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I'm going to hazard guess and say that we didn't have a great deal of money left in the pot but its not like he has come to be a guaranteed first choice. We've now got Lescott, Richards, Clark(e), Senderos, Okore, Illori and Crespo who can all play centre back. I'd call that competition for places, something we haven't had for a long time. I'd be suprised if the reason we signed him was to create more competition, we already had 6 senior centre backs(7 including baker) which is overkill imo. I think its more likely someone tim or the scouting system rated highly enough that even though we were well stocked they thought it too good an opportunity to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayslickuk Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 It pisses Liverpool fans off that we've signed him, and that's good enough for me. Yes, I'm currently sat in my office listening to a pair of Liverpool fans moaning about this deal. I don't know anything about the player but worth it just to hear their soundbites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I'm going to hazard guess and say that we didn't have a great deal of money left in the pot but its not like he has come to be a guaranteed first choice. We've now got Lescott, Richards, Clark(e), Senderos, Okore, Illori and Crespo who can all play centre back. I'd call that competition for places, something we haven't had for a long time. I'd be suprised if the reason we signed him was to create more competition, we already had 6 senior centre backs(7 including baker) which is overkill imo. I think its more likely someone tim or the scouting system rated highly enough that even though we were well stocked they thought it too good an opportunity to pass. Right, so if he is going to be around the first team then he is competition for other players in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjaacckk91 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I'm going to hazard guess and say that we didn't have a great deal of money left in the pot but its not like he has come to be a guaranteed first choice. We've now got Lescott, Richards, Clark(e), Senderos, Okore, Illori and Crespo who can all play centre back. I'd call that competition for places, something we haven't had for a long time. I'd be suprised if the reason we signed him was to create more competition, we already had 6 senior centre backs(7 including baker) which is overkill imo. I think its more likely someone tim or the scouting system rated highly enough that even though we were well stocked they thought it too good an opportunity to pass. Right, so if he is going to be around the first team then he is competition for other players in that position. Wires crossed, thought you were saying that's why we signed him. I agree it gives us pretty fierce competition for places. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 2, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted September 2, 2015 It pisses Liverpool fans off that we've signed him, and that's good enough for me. Yes, I'm currently sat in my office listening to a pair of Liverpool fans moaning about this deal. I don't know anything about the player but worth it just to hear their soundbites. I bet they don't know anything about him either 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I bet they don't know anything about him either Knowing Liverpool fans he was the greatest young centre back in the world until the very second he signed for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I still maintain and have done that for a while that Sherwood is going to go 5-3-2 or 3-5-2 hence why he is stocking up on CB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Why are you guys putting Ilori as a RB or LB? On our official site it mentions him being able to play anywhere across the back line. I suppose they could have pulled that out of their arse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 2, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 2, 2015 Hearing good things about him from Liverpool fans up here While that's good, we do need to be aware of the Cuéllar quotient. Ilori has never played a single minute for Liverpool's first team. That almost makes him eligible for the Ballon d'Or. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Ok. I'm wondering what the risk is to us? We're not exactly short on defenders. I can't really tell if you're being obtuse for the sake of it or not - I'll humour you this time. If he plays, we're putting an CB in with absolutely zero premier league experience and very little senior experience. Seeing as experience is very important when it comes to defending, this presents a risk on the field. Isn't that the deal with all young players, particularly central defenders as you say. If he shows enough in training and cup games then he will earn his spot. We don't know at this point what the plan is though do we. If we had signed him and not Lescott I would agree it is one hell of a risk. However, we negate that risk by having plenty of options in that position. I doubt he will start against Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 2, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 2, 2015 I bet they don't know anything about him either Knowing Liverpool fans he was the greatest young centre back in the world until the very second he signed for us.Whilst this is an obvious jibe at Liverpool fans its actually not far off the truth. Many many of them have been asking for him to be in the team instead of Louvren of the 15 Pizzas for ages. They hate Louvren and after Saturday its easy to see why. Not sure if their assessment of Llori is based on hating Louvren or Lori's talent however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 2, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 2, 2015 It's also going to be one of those very-oft misspelled names isn't it. Eye-Ell-Oh-Orr-Eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 2, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 2, 2015 It's also going to be one of those very-oft misspelled names isn't it. Eye-Ell-Oh-Orr-Eye. Not in Welsh its not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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