VILLAMARV Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Bit of a radical idea I know but how about we try playing the best left back we've had at the club for a long time at left back? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 6 hours ago, VILLAMARV said: Bit of a radical idea I know but how about we try playing the best left back we've had at the club for a long time at left back? Yes thats great once we have have to play ayew up top... So we need to look alternatives or shall we stick kozak up top like last game, that was so successful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 26, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 26, 2016 19 hours ago, VILLAMARV said: Bit of a radical idea I know but how about we try playing the best left back we've had at the club for a long time at left back? Has to learn how to defend first. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 On 8/26/2016 at 00:16, VILLAMARV said: Bit of a radical idea I know but how about we try playing the best left back we've had at the club for a long time at left back? ...because he might actually be better in a more advanced role? As far as the best left back in a 'long time', well it depends on how to define long time, because Amavi hasn't played enough for us to determine that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie k Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 his defending isnt as bad as people make it out to be. the welcome to liverpool video a few pages back shows some good defending. hes still young and will improve surely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 49 minutes ago, Richie k said: his defending isnt as bad as people make it out to be. the welcome to liverpool video a few pages back shows some good defending. hes still young and will improve surely I have no idea where it's come from that he 'can't defend', he made a couple of mistakes that were capitalised on but on the whole was good defensively. He will rightly stay at left back and when fully up to speed after the awful injury will take over from Aly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Last season he didn't play many games for us but made some noteable and costly errors, so to say defending isn't his strong point isn't too far fetched based on evidence so far. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Last season he didn't play many games for us but made some noteable and costly errors, so to say defending isn't his strong point isn't too far fetched based on evidence so far. there's a difference between "defending isn't his strong point" and "he needs to learn how to defend" defending isn't Daniel Alves' strong point, nor Jordi Alba, or David Alaba, or even Kyle Walker, or Nathaniel Clyne. He has a style that is more forward thinking definitely. lets not forget that he led European football in statistics for a full back before we signed him. Edited August 27, 2016 by a m ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 I fail to see why people demand that this guy should start at left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, KHV said: I fail to see why people demand that this guy should start at left back. Because he's got bags of ability, is young, a France U-21 international, was a bright spark in a dark time in limited appearances last season. For sure he makes errors. Every footballer does but the potential quality is there and that is what excites people. He is potentially very good. Fans always like to see good footballers in the team that they support (this is probably the main one). These are just some of the reasons why people demand that he starts. I'm not demanding that he starts just pointing out some reasons why he should. Obviously there are reasons why he shouldn't (suspect defensively) but he's a potentially a very good player and I would like to see him start. The defensive aspects of his game might sort themselves out or might not but he will only have a chance to learn by playing games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfingers Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 32 minutes ago, KHV said: I fail to see why people demand that this guy should start at left back. i agree. Places in the team should be earned, not given. We have a left back who has started the season very well, it is his place to lose. The same applies everywhere else. Amavi is coming back from a very serious injury. He has struggled in the games that he's played in. The whole scenario reminds me of Lowton in his first season. He was woeful when defending but contributed going forward. For some bizare reason, this made him a blue eyed boy on here. Attacking ability has to be a bonus for defenders. First and foremost, they must be able to defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 He was poor. It's going to take him a while to get over this injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Was any of his goals actually his fault? One goal was a direct free kick, another was very much Gollini's error and the Bryan goal he ran past Elphick with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) On 27/08/2016 at 12:39, Richie k said: his defending isnt as bad as people make it out to be. I think it's worse than people on here want to believe it is. Because he's good going forward people think he's better than he is because of the perception of "modern" fullbacks. He has been at fault for an awful lot of goals since he joined the club mostly down to poor positioning and/or ball watching. Needs alot of work and to play in a settled back four to improve. Edited August 29, 2016 by villa89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 17 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Was any of his goals actually his fault? One goal was a direct free kick, another was very much Gollini's error and the Bryan goal he ran past Elphick with ease. nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 4 hours ago, KHV said: I fail to see why people demand that this guy should start at left back. Because he has a fancy name and an interesting barnet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Wonder if he can play LW? Seems skillful and quick so might be an option out wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Just now, jacketspuds said: Wonder if he can play LW? Seems skillful and quick so might be an option out wide. I would much rather see him at LW, he has great pace and a decent cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie k Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 4 hours ago, villa89 said: I think it's worse than people on here want to believe it is. Because he's good going forward people think he's better than he is because of the perception of "modern" fullbacks. He has been at fault for an awful lot of goals since he joined the club mostly down to poor positioning and/or ball watching. Needs alot of work and to play in a settled back four to improve. i think there was 1 goal his fault. he got blamed for another because of a stupid pass from guzan and he wasnt expecting and shouldnt have recieved the ball. he made 1 or 2 mistakes which seems to be contagious in last years villa team. he hadnt played much in england there was going to be errors and hes young. definately not as bad as people make him out to be. hes not world class by any means but has the potential. the case can be made for him being played in a more advanced roll but ive no problem with him startin once he earns the position. cissokho can have just as many stupid errors in him if not more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Called up to France U21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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