Spawnsworth Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Fair enough. Feel free to PM me some humble pie if I turn out to be wrong. I'll enjoy it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Spawnsworth said: Not good enough. I've seen him get bullied off the ball far too many times. I've given him plenty of time before I made my mind up on him and he's just not good enough (and that's just my view) Statistically one of the best ball winners in the league and completes over 85 percent of his passes. Not good enough apparently. Don't get it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 More stats that actually refute that opinion: Dispossessed on average 1.2 times a game, less than say Aaron Ramsey or Yaya Toure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissmith921 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 But where is he on the park when he's dispossessed? Stats can tell you anything you want - I've got as many world cup winners medals as Messi, Ronaldo and Heskey combined - that's a fact - am I as good as them? I'd bet IGG is at least 20 yards deeper than Ramsey/Yaya for his 'average dispossession position' (as ridiculous as a decimal for dispossessions per game) and that's a hell of a lot more harmful. Anyway - I think hes a tidy player, but needs someone alongside who knows what this league is about. If he'd been alongside D*lph, I think we'd be crowing about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I've said it before, this guy - like Amavi - posts amazing stats that disguise the fact that he isn't actually effective. If you looked at their WhoScored ratings, you'd be led to believe that Gana and Amavi are two of the top 50 players in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Simply one of the worst Premier League players of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, Razor said: Simply one of the worst Premier League players of all time. Well, thanks for that contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawnsworth Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, Razor said: Simply one of the worst Premier League players of all time. Slightly harsh. Not good enough would have sufficed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 12, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2016 The hyperbole on this site of late is hilarious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 13 minutes ago, Razor said: Simply one of the worst Premier League players of all time. Football watching isn't the hobby for you I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 6 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: The hyperbole on this site of late is hilarious Careful 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Isn't even among the bottom 10 players in our current team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) It saves all this pointless discussion about it being a confidence issue. Get real guys, he is useless. We are the worst team in Premier League history and he's our worst player along with Gestede so i'm not sure how you can disagree. Edited January 12, 2016 by Razor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 One of the worst PL players of all time. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, sne said: Isn't even among the bottom 10 players in our current team lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said: One of the worst PL players of all time. Wow. Well he plays for the mighty Aston Villa so how can he be, right? And they call us deluded..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Deluded because I don't think he's one of the worst PL players of all time? Come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 12, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, Razor said: It saves all this pointless discussion about it being a confidence issue. Get real guys, he is useless. We are the worst team in Premier League history and he's our worst player along with Gestede so i'm not sure how you can disagree. 1. No we're not. 2. He's not even the worst player in our midfield, and our midfield is probably the strongest (and I use that word lightly) area of our team right now, let alone our whole team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 25 minutes ago, Razor said: Simply one of the worst Premier League players of all time. I think he is awful, worst of all time is stretching the imagination though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawnsworth Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I'd actually agree that he's not our worst midfielder. Sanchez gets that vote. He's looked like a world beater a couple of times he's played agains Man City and maybe a couple of other games he looked decent but apart from that he is liability. He hit possibly the most inaccurate pass I have ever seen vs QPR away last season which set up the attack for them to score their second. If Gana isn't our worst midfielder then that does show how poor we really are, especially when you consider our midfield is our....erm... least weakest area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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