Dr_Pangloss Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Disgraceful post match comments compounds what an utter buffoon this guy is. One word that sums him up is clueless. He has no clue about football management and will take us down if he's not sacked soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Tim or no Tim, it's just footy. Sad thing is, it isn't, otherwise we'd have all walked away from this abusive relationship along time ago. We honestly all have some small form of mental illness for sticking by this club. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PongRiddims Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 He's just not very good, is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 In 2015 both Newcastle and Villa have the worst win ratios in the PL...If we cannot beat the likes of Sunderland, WBA and Stoke at home we don't deserve to be in the league because our away form is shocking too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted September 26, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted September 26, 2015 He's just not very good, is he?No, not very. But I don't think it's quite that simple. Sometimes it's a matter of timing, just like any serious relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I am surprised at some on here who stuck up for Lambert on the grounds that the problem lies with Lerner and yet now scream for Sherwood out. Surely the problem remains whilst there is no change at the top . Lambert fought an uphill battle in his time here, Sherwood has been given the opportunity to spend big on fees and wages and in turn doesn't get much sympathy as well as him making basic errors game after game and talking complete bollox.Sherwood has an 8 ill net spend. I am also intrigued as to how he has he spent big on wages. I would bet my house that the wage bill has been lowered over the summer. Given, Benteke, Delph, Vlaar, Weimann, Lowton, Cleverley and the fringe players we have either let go or loaned out would have been on way more combined than the players we have signed.I got to lay my cards on the table now and say if I woke up tomorrow and found out Sherwood had been sacked I would not be devastated. I would though believe that he hadn't been given a fair crack of the whip with his own squad as 7 league games, 9 if you included the 2 cup wins, is nowhere near enough time to judge him.Net spend doesn't cut it for me, he spent £50m whatever way you wanna look at it and has been in a much better position to offer much better wages. When's the last time one of our managers spent £50m in one transfer window? Spending that much brings added pressure and Sherwood already looks affected by how things have being going so far this season. He deserves more time but it's hard to be convinced that he will turn it round when he makes such basic errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Is it time to give Patrick Vieira a call? Perfect fit for our current squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I'm worried now...I know it is early days but I genuinely think some of the players we have in Gana, Adama, Grealish, Amavi are real quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 If he went, do you think Klopp is a potential replacement? Or am I kidding myself? Didnt he say something along the lines of not having to go to the top club straight away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) Yeah, the net-spend argument amounts to very little when you consider that it basically boils down to just two outgoings. For example, the gravity of Spurs' £100m spend in 2013 cannot be downplayed on the basis it was mostly mitigated by the Bale cash. It was nonetheless £100m and a huge opportunity for the club - one that they royally pissed down the drain I might add. Same with us, Benteke's spectacular success enabled us to amass a transfer budget from his departure that we otherwise would never have had. There are no excuses. Edited September 26, 2015 by Isa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PongRiddims Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 He's just not very good, is he?No, not very. But I don't think it's quite that simple. Sometimes it's a matter of timing, just like any serious relationship.And sometimes it's a matter of appointing completely the wrong man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 If he went, do you think Klopp is a potential replacement? Or am I kidding myself? Didnt he say something along the lines of not having to go to the top club straight away?Don't be silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvilla28 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 We just look unorganized with out a system and Tim is reactive we let Liverpool come at us.Back four is a laughing stock school boys and persist with the same players.He didn't replace two positions we needed bad a rb and a goalie to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 27, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 27, 2015 When we win its all about him.When we don't it's down to the players.That seems to be the general theme to his post match comments.Doesn't sit well with me and can't imagine it sits well with the players. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 We just look unorganized with out a system and Tim is reactive we let Liverpool come at us.Back four is a laughing stock school boys and persist with the same players.He didn't replace two positions we needed bad a rb and a goalie to.said all through the summer thar we desperate for a rb and that we need to replace Guzan. Got slatered for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 If he went, do you think Klopp is a potential replacement? Or am I kidding myself? Didnt he say something along the lines of not having to go to the top club straight away?This is the most delusional thing I've read on here since someone agreed with Tim sherwood that jack grealish is worth over 60m.........give you credit tho. You kinda knew it's crazy talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 (edited) If he went, do you think Klopp is a potential replacement? Or am I kidding myself? Didnt he say something along the lines of not having to go to the top club straight away?This is the most delusional thing I've read on here since someone agreed with Tim sherwood that jack grealish is worth over 60m.........give you credit tho. You kinda knew it's crazy talk. Na I've seen worse. Like Liverpool is a not a step up from us and that we could finish above Spurs this season. Edited September 27, 2015 by Arj Guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervillan78 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 The team needs time to gel and we've been unfortunate with injuries. I expect things will improve once we have a more settled side. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted September 27, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2015 When we win its all about him.When we don't it's down to the players.That seems to be the general theme to his post match comments.Good managers often aren't at their best when dealing with the press:Ferguson's fall-outs with the media are legendary, but the lifting of this ban has shocked even his colleagues, particularly as there has been no apology at any point of the complex, tortuous process. It culminated in the BBC's director general, Mark Thompson, travelling to Manchester to meet Ferguson face to face and hear his grievances about the 2004 documentary, Father and Son, about him and his son Jason, then working as a football agent, which had led to Ferguson severing contact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted September 27, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2015 (edited) Yeah, the net-spend argument amounts to very little when you consider that it basically boils down to just two outgoings. For example, the gravity of Spurs' £100m spend in 2013 cannot be downplayed on the basis it was mostly mitigated by the Bale cash. It was nonetheless £100m and a huge opportunity for the club - one that they royally pissed down the drain I might add. Same with us, Benteke's spectacular success enabled us to amass a transfer budget from his departure that we otherwise would never have had. There are no excuses. It is not the same as the Bale/Spurs situation is it. Sherwood lost arguably the four best players he inherited in Benteke, Delph, Vlaar and Cleverley. I think Benteke is a 30 mill player, Delph a 12 - 15 mill player, Vlaar 4 - 5 mill and Cleverley would be considered a 6 - 8 mill player. Lets be conservative and say 50 mill + in total. Those were probably the only 4 players we had in the squad last season who could get into top 8 sides, aside from Grealish, as shown by the fact three of them now play for teams likely at the very least to finish in the top 8 this season.Sherwood has spent 50 mill and had to replace the 4 best players he had. Those four best players in a squad that finished 17th. For me had we have kept those players we would have needed to spend 20 mill to push on. We didn't. I do however think Sherwood spent the money he had well and given time I am still very hopeful that we will kick on this season and not be in danger of relegation come the arse end of the season. Edited September 27, 2015 by markavfc40 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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