Ponky Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I think it was McAllister that saved us from relegation after Houllier got sick so I'd be happy to see him reprise that role albeit for a longer run of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I don't 'like' Sherwood, but then I've never 'liked' Big Sam, Pulis or Harry Redknapp and they are all good PL managers imo. Okay so Redknapp didn't do well at QPR, but then neither did Mark Hughes, and he's a good manager. Don't need to be a likeable character to be a good manager, a bit of arrogance can be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpants Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Ján Kozák senior, found and raised Matič, found and raised Duda, saved several times, several teams from relagation on zero budget just on youth, great tactician, there are only two problems: he is currently manager of Slovak National team sitting first up front of Spain and Ukraine in EURO 2016 and does not speak English as far as I know. But he never failed/fails. Cheap option. Ciaran Clark would probably break his two legs in the first training session. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dodgyknees Posted February 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2015 Lovely statement made by Lambert today. Very classy. Check out the Lambert thread. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) Any legitimate links out there today? I really hope we act quickly but decisively but I think i'm probably asking for too much there from Randolph. We need a Diego Simeone or a Jurgen Klopp type manager, a real inspirational coach that gets the best out his players. My top picks: Steve McLaren - He won't leave Derby though and as already pointed out, last time he was linked we basically made it impossible for him to be interviewed. Thomas Tuchel - Said he isn't coming back into football until the Summer, More than likely Newcastle's next manager. Jocelyn Gourvennec - I'm pretty sure Randolph doesn't even know who he is. Slaven Bilic - Cheers DK, forgot about him. As I can't see Lerner wanting to pay compensation I think the likely hood is either Sherwood or potentially a return to Solksjaer (Hopefully not as he has already taken a team in similar position down) Edited February 12, 2015 by sexbelowsound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Any legitimate links out there today? I really hope we act quickly but decisively but I think i'm probably asking for too much there from Randolph. We need a Diego Simeone or a Jurgen Klopp type manager, a real inspirational coach that gets the best out his players. My top picks: Steve McLaren - He won't leave Derby though and as already pointed out, last time he was linked we basically made it impossible for him to be interviewed. Thomas Tuchel - Said he isn't coming back into football until the Summer, More than likely Newcastle's next manager. Jocelyn Gourvennec - I'm pretty sure Randolph doesn't even know who he is. As I can't see Lerner wanting to pay compensation I think the likely hood is either Sherwood or potentially a return to Solksjaer (Hopefully not as he has already taken a team in similar position down) Bilic is my choice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Bilić would be my choice as well. He's one of the few names i can think of who'd be ideal for the situation we're in now and at the same time be a good long-term Manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 i would prefer curbs or hoddle over sherwood i think he is ahuge gamble. a loose cannon like di canio But Di Canio worked for Sunderland - he kept them in the prem that should be our sole focus (not suggesting Di Canio - just that right now a bit of short termism might not be a bad thing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) Who gives a shit who the manager is? 3 managers in a row has failed, and the last one was the one who got least money and the one we should not have let go. Making him sign washed up players on free (Cole-injury prone, Richardson-unspectacular in a relegated team, Senderos-free because he was not good enough), buy players from struggling clubs (Sanchez + Gil last played regularly for Elche), and loan bench warmers from other clubs (Cleverely-was not first option at all united, Sinclair-the same + out of form). He wanted a striker, but had no money to get one that he believed would take to the premier league in an instant. None of the players he signed were good enough for a top team. That put Villa the same position as the bottom 10 clubs, where luck with injuries, not meeting top 7 teams 7 games in a row (here was the turning point for Lambert this season), and whether players bought are instant hits deciding whether you get 11th or 20th spot. How this team was supposed to be better than last season baffles me when you also take into account injuries (short and long) to all the key players (Vlaar, Benteke and Delph because Villa is so shit that we have no more then three key). Buying cheap is a long term plan that has a 90% chance of failing. Too bad it was what Lambert was forced to do. Last summer he was screwed by Lerner. He was supposed to get a significant war chest, instead he got peanuts and when Lerner finally opened his Aston Villa wallet, it was too little cash in it. A warning to whoever is the new manager: if we stay up, and you can't trick a few more quid of Lerner than Lambert managed, you will face a relegation battle next season. Good luck. You are doomed. Edited February 12, 2015 by momo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Villastine Posted February 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2015 Pat Murphy on 5 live "The new Aston Villa manager will be recommended by the chief executive Tom Fox, with the owner Randy Lerner prepared to rubberstamp his decision. Lerner will not be part of the interview process. "Lerner operates out of New York and is hardly ever in Birmingham, as he comes to rely more and more on the advice of his fellow-American whom he appointed as CEO last September. It was Fox who recommended Lambert should be sacked after Tuesday night's defeat at Hull. "Fox will take soundings from Villa's director of recruitment Paddy Reilly and an inner circle of trusted colleagues before moving in on a target. Coaching expertise will be essential - Villa were short in that area during Lambert's tenure - and they won't be put off if their preferred candidate is with another club. "Although time is on Villa's side in that their next Premier League game is not until a week on Saturday when they are at home to Stoke City, Fox will want a swift appointment." 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Pat Murphy on 5 live "The new Aston Villa manager will be recommended by the chief executive Tom Fox, with the owner Randy Lerner prepared to rubberstamp his decision. Lerner will not be part of the interview process. "Lerner operates out of New York and is hardly ever in Birmingham, as he comes to rely more and more on the advice of his fellow-American whom he appointed as CEO last September. It was Fox who recommended Lambert should be sacked after Tuesday night's defeat at Hull. "Fox will take soundings from Villa's director of recruitment Paddy Reilly and an inner circle of trusted colleagues before moving in on a target. Coaching expertise will be essential - Villa were short in that area during Lambert's tenure - and they won't be put off if their preferred candidate is with another club. "Although time is on Villa's side in that their next Premier League game is not until a week on Saturday when they are at home to Stoke City, Fox will want a swift appointment." Interesting. Quite agree we need somebody with a bit of coaching knowledge and expertise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted February 12, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 12, 2015 Any legitimate links out there today? I really hope we act quickly but decisively but I think i'm probably asking for too much there from Randolph. We need a Diego Simeone or a Jurgen Klopp type manager, a real inspirational coach that gets the best out his players. My top picks: Steve McLaren - He won't leave Derby though and as already pointed out, last time he was linked we basically made it impossible for him to be interviewed. Thomas Tuchel - Said he isn't coming back into football until the Summer, More than likely Newcastle's next manager. Jocelyn Gourvennec - I'm pretty sure Randolph doesn't even know who he is. As I can't see Lerner wanting to pay compensation I think the likely hood is either Sherwood or potentially a return to Solksjaer (Hopefully not as he has already taken a team in similar position down) Good list, my top picks were Tuchel, Spalletti and Prandellii. Spalletti plays some lovely football and the 4-2-3-1 he had going at Roma would work with the players we have now. Prandelli also plays attractive football and both of them being Italian know how to start from a solid base and a good defense. All available at the mo too. I wouldn't have McLaren as top of my list (he didn't make my list on the last page) but I think he'd bring a good coaching team with him and wouldn't be a bad appointment. I'd prefer Bilic or Jol before the likes of McLaren and Sherwood though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Who gives a shit who the manager is? 3 managers in a row has failed, and the last one was the one who got least money and the one we should not have let go. Making him sign washed up players on free (Cole-injury prone, Richardson-unspectacular in a relegated team, Senderos-free because he was not good enough), buy players from struggling clubs (Sanchez + Gil last played regularly for Elche), and loan bench warmers from other clubs (Cleverely-was not first option at all united, Sinclair-the same + out of form). He wanted a striker, but had no money to get one that he believed would take to the premier league in an instant. None of the players he signed were good enough for a top team. That put Villa the same position as the bottom 10 clubs, where luck with injuries, not meeting top 7 teams 7 games in a row (here was the turning point for Lambert this season), and instant hits with bought players deciding whether you get 11th or 20th spot. How this team was supposed to be better than last season, baffles me when you also take into account injuries (short and long) to all the key players (Vlaar, Benteke and Delph because Villa is so shit that we have no more then three key). Buying cheap is a long term plan that has a 90% chance of failing. Too bad it was what Lambert was forced to do. Last summer he was screwed by Lerner. He was supposed to get a significant war chest, instead he got peanuts and when Lerner finally opened his Aston Villa wallet, it was too little cash in it. A warning to whoever is the new manager: if we stay up, and you can't trick a few more quid of Lerner than Lambert managed, you will face a relegation battle next season. Good luck. You are doomed. True. After all that's happened, the squad for the Hull game was the best I've seen in a very long time. We can thank Lambert for achieving that on what, £2-3m per player. It's sad that our performance was so insipid to add to the run we've had in general and I think relegation was absolutely nailed on and he had to go. But a new manager does have something to work with, if he can get it together then I think we could be comfortably safe. How they would do long term under the constraints remains to be seen, and who Randy can attract to do it long term without a guaranteed new owner on the horizon, I don't know. He won't be able to please a very irritable fanbase I don't think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted February 12, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 12, 2015 Pat Murphy on 5 live "The new Aston Villa manager will be recommended by the chief executive Tom Fox, with the owner Randy Lerner prepared to rubberstamp his decision. Lerner will not be part of the interview process. "Lerner operates out of New York and is hardly ever in Birmingham, as he comes to rely more and more on the advice of his fellow-American whom he appointed as CEO last September. It was Fox who recommended Lambert should be sacked after Tuesday night's defeat at Hull. "Fox will take soundings from Villa's director of recruitment Paddy Reilly and an inner circle of trusted colleagues before moving in on a target. Coaching expertise will be essential - Villa were short in that area during Lambert's tenure - and they won't be put off if their preferred candidate is with another club. "Although time is on Villa's side in that their next Premier League game is not until a week on Saturday when they are at home to Stoke City, Fox will want a swift appointment." Interesting. Quite agree we need somebody with a bit of coaching knowledge and expertise. Absolutely, after Keane effed off and he had no assistant it was too much for Lambert to have to deal with IMO. We needed an assistant and a couple of good coaches to come in with some modern methods. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Any legitimate links out there today? I really hope we act quickly but decisively but I think i'm probably asking for too much there from Randolph. We need a Diego Simeone or a Jurgen Klopp type manager, a real inspirational coach that gets the best out his players. My top picks: Steve McLaren - He won't leave Derby though and as already pointed out, last time he was linked we basically made it impossible for him to be interviewed. Thomas Tuchel - Said he isn't coming back into football until the Summer, More than likely Newcastle's next manager. Jocelyn Gourvennec - I'm pretty sure Randolph doesn't even know who he is. As I can't see Lerner wanting to pay compensation I think the likely hood is either Sherwood or potentially a return to Solksjaer (Hopefully not as he has already taken a team in similar position down) Bilic is my choice. Damn. Add him to my list as well. Forgot about him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Interesting that Pat Murphy seems to think that we might go for someone who's already at another club. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 If Pat Murphy's comments are true then I feel slightly more confident. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeps Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Big fat Sams claret and blue army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Who gives a shit who the manager is? 3 managers in a row has failed, and the last one was the one who got least money and the one we should not have let go. Making him sign washed up players on free (Cole-injury prone, Richardson-unspectacular in a relegated team, Senderos-free because he was not good enough), buy players from struggling clubs (Sanchez + Gil last played regularly for Elche), and loan bench warmers from other clubs (Cleverely-was not first option at all united, Sinclair-the same + out of form). He wanted a striker, but had no money to get one that he believed would take to the premier league in an instant. None of the players he signed were good enough for a top team. That put Villa the same position as the bottom 10 clubs, where luck with injuries, not meeting top 7 teams 7 games in a row (here was the turning point for Lambert this season), and whether players bought are instant hits deciding whether you get 11th or 20th spot. How this team was supposed to be better than last season baffles me when you also take into account injuries (short and long) to all the key players (Vlaar, Benteke and Delph because Villa is so shit that we have no more then three key). Buying cheap is a long term plan that has a 90% chance of failing. Too bad it was what Lambert was forced to do. Last summer he was screwed by Lerner. He was supposed to get a significant war chest, instead he got peanuts and when Lerner finally opened his Aston Villa wallet, it was too little cash in it. A warning to whoever is the new manager: if we stay up, and you can't trick a few more quid of Lerner than Lambert managed, you will face a relegation battle next season. Good luck. You are doomed. Thing is - it wasn't the finicial constraints what did him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I would take Fat Sam tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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