Stevo985 Posted February 10, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2015 I believe that when Lambert and Villa part company he will never manage a club in the premiership again. I strongly believe the exact opposite. Me too. In fact I'd back him to be successful at his next club as he was at his previous clubs. There's more wrong with this club than Lambert, although I recognise he's a huge part of it. He was succesful at Norwich, one hit wonder. He failed everywhere else Just absolutely not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I believe that when Lambert and Villa part company he will never manage a club in the premiership again. I strongly believe the exact opposite. Me too. In fact I'd back him to be successful at his next club as he was at his previous clubs. There's more wrong with this club than Lambert, although I recognise he's a huge part of it. Statistics would suggest he'll never do that well again, the game is littered with managers who were the in thing for a while after doing well with a smaller club, but who then fizzled out into obscurity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) He's a busted flush, he'll - in all liklihood - go the same way as the Owen Coyles and Paul Jewells of this world. Edited February 10, 2015 by Isa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I believe that when Lambert and Villa part company he will never manage a club in the premiership again. I strongly believe the exact opposite. Me too. In fact I'd back him to be successful at his next club as he was at his previous clubs. There's more wrong with this club than Lambert, although I recognise he's a huge part of it. He was succesful at Norwich, one hit wonder. He failed everywhere else Just absolutely not true. It was pretty "meh" everywhere. An undoubted failure at St Mirren, he did OK at Wycombe and mid table at Colchester. He seemingly got the job at Norwich on the back of that 7-1 win, and then inherited a Norwich squad with Grant Holt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 10, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) Wycombe to the playoffs and an unprecedented League Cup Semi FInal from League 2 is a pretty decent achievement. Similarly with Colchester. he didn't do anything amazing but he only had one season, and they haven't done much better since (mid table or flirting with relegation) I'm not saying he was amazing, but I'd class Norwich and Wycombe as successes. or rather, certainly not failures. he certainly wasn't a "failure" anywhere but Livingston, which was his first job. To claim he was a failure "everywhere" else is literally lying. Edited February 10, 2015 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I believe that when Lambert and Villa part company he will never manage a club in the premiership again. I strongly believe the exact opposite. Me too. In fact I'd back him to be successful at his next club as he was at his previous clubs. There's more wrong with this club than Lambert, although I recognise he's a huge part of it. He was succesful at Norwich, one hit wonder. He failed everywhere else Just absolutely not true. It was pretty "meh" everywhere. An undoubted failure at St Mirren, he did OK at Wycombe and mid table at Colchester. He seemingly got the job at Norwich on the back of that 7-1 win, and then inherited a Norwich squad with Grant Holt. He was expected to gain promotion with Wycombe who were beaten play off finalists the season before he arrived, they didnt get promotion or make the playoff final. Colchester had just been relegated from the Championship when he arrived they were expected to make a promotion push/playoff place and I think he finished 9th or 10th then buggered off after one game the following year. Had 3 good years at Norwich and had 3 shit years at Villa. Overall his career has been average. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 He never managed St Mirren! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Villa Park: The Graveyard of managers. Nobody succeeds after this place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I believe that when Lambert and Villa part company he will never manage a club in the premiership again. I strongly believe the exact opposite. Me too. In fact I'd back him to be successful at his next club as he was at his previous clubs. There's more wrong with this club than Lambert, although I recognise he's a huge part of it. He was succesful at Norwich, one hit wonder. He failed everywhere else Just absolutely not true. Can I ask how you come to that opinion? I see someone who isnt very good tactically, cannot make a substitution that will change a game (i appreciate that he can only work with what he has). Yes he has signed some good players but then doesnt appear to know how to use them and most importantly I judt dont see players getting better under his management. They either stay the same or get worse. I dont dislike the guy but would prefer it he was manager at Birmingham City rather than us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I believe that when Lambert and Villa part company he will never manage a club in the premiership again.I strongly believe the exact opposite. I can't see him managing a team already there but I can see him managing a championship team with realistic hopes of promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 10, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2015 I believe that when Lambert and Villa part company he will never manage a club in the premiership again. I strongly believe the exact opposite. Me too. In fact I'd back him to be successful at his next club as he was at his previous clubs. There's more wrong with this club than Lambert, although I recognise he's a huge part of it. He was succesful at Norwich, one hit wonder. He failed everywhere else Just absolutely not true. Can I ask how you come to that opinion? I see someone who isnt very good tactically, cannot make a substitution that will change a game (i appreciate that he can only work with what he has). Yes he has signed some good players but then doesnt appear to know how to use them and most importantly I judt dont see players getting better under his management. They either stay the same or get worse. I dont dislike the guy but would prefer it he was manager at Birmingham City rather than us. You realise I'm not talking about his time at Villa don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) He'd be a major coup for someone like Forest or Leeds, I believe he'd lead them back to the Premier league and keep them there. The longer we can hang onto him the better. Edited February 10, 2015 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Must win tonight, no excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) He inherited a Wycombe that had finished 6th the season prior and managed 12th and 7th in his two seasons there. The perception of his spell there is being inflated purely due to the cup run. At Colchester, he took over in the aftermath of their relegation from the Championship and finished 12th in his only full season there which isn't admirable by anybody's standards. He was basically an alright manager (by lower league standards), went on a great run with Norwich and has subsequently exposed his limitations here. Edited February 10, 2015 by Isa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I believe that when Lambert and Villa part company he will never manage a club in the premiership again. I strongly believe the exact opposite. Me too. In fact I'd back him to be successful at his next club as he was at his previous clubs. There's more wrong with this club than Lambert, although I recognise he's a huge part of it. He was succesful at Norwich, one hit wonder. He failed everywhere else Just absolutely not true. Can I ask how you come to that opinion? I see someone who isnt very good tactically, cannot make a substitution that will change a game (i appreciate that he can only work with what he has). Yes he has signed some good players but then doesnt appear to know how to use them and most importantly I judt dont see players getting better under his management. They either stay the same or get worse. I dont dislike the guy but would prefer it he was manager at Birmingham City rather than us. to be fair, his substitutions when we were down 2-0 against WBA last year were perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villanun Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Could be his last game in charge tonight if it all goes tits up....... I think if we lose tonight then he will get sacked. If we lose tonight and he doesn't get sacked then he really is unsackable this season, imo. I don't think he would get sacked even if were relegated. He has got a team promoted in the past so Lerner will probably see him as the ideal manager. I'm starting to think that Lambert could pull someone out of the crowd and beat them to death on the halfway line and Lerner wouldn't even notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted February 10, 2015 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2015 This re-writing of history is fairly typical. Take his time at Colchester. He didn't just finish midtable. He took over a relegated side who were 2nd from bottom in their new league and finished midtable (see, context), then started the following season by battering Norwich 7-1 to the point where Norwich nicked him off them. I'd say he got them over the hangover of relegation, which was looking like permeating Williams' season before he walked, and although it looked like Lambert might push them on in his 2nd season, that is admittedly pure conjecture. As for Wycombe. As Stevo says, he got them to the semi-final of a league cup and into the playoffs. Yes they didn't go up but playoffs can be a bit of a lottery. The only criticism here would probably be that they didn't go up automatically, rather than losing a playoff game. And to say he had '3 good years' at Norwich is a quite extraordinary understatement. Immediate consecutive promotions from league 1 into the Premier League capped off by a midtable Premier League finish in their first season is so much more than 3 good years. We can argue about why his time at Villa has been disappointing until the cows come home. In fact we have done, and we will probably continue to do so until he is gone. Most will know that I think there are massive extenuating circumstances that all revolve around Lerner. I still think if Lambert was given a fair crack of the whip at Villa in terms of being allowed to spend what the other mere mortal clubs can spend then we'd be a lot more comfortable than we are. But we are where we are and it's up to Lerner to stick or twist. I think he'll stick. Personally I think he's right to stick. But I think it's sad when it comes to re-writing history just because we don't like what is happening in the here and now. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 He'd be a major coup for someone like Forest or Leeds, I believe he'd lead them back to the Premier league and keep them there. The longer we can hang onto him the better. ^^^^ ^^^^ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I think Lambert was a pretty good manager but as many managers before him could not handle being manager of Aston Villa. Yes he has had difficult circumstances, no doubt. However, he has been found lacking in several areas on numerous occasions. It is a very difficult job made worse by PL's inept ability when it comes tactics, motivation and coaching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Lambert will probably succeed here given more time, I hope he is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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