lapal_fan Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) 13 goals or nothin. Edited January 13, 2015 by lapal_fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 End of the game, do what you want. During the game, support the team. It's as simple as that for me. i agree. The first thing that entered my mind when i heard this was its gonna make a really bad first imprsssion on Gil. Oh, hang on, we havent signed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Joint 12th-13 ha ha ha, an that's justification of some sort. If we are there after 3-4 games I will bow down, ha ha what a joke. As for supporting the team, I have seen no less difference in the quality of football chanting Lambert out in the game against Leicester as I have in the last 2 seasons of his shite.Yeah we should be in the champions league for we are the mighty Aston Villa, it's all about history and high expectations nevermind realism. Precisely nobody has said that whatsoever though, so why the hyperbole. There is a happy medium to be had between Champions League qualification and scoring 11 goals all season, I'd have thought. Why the hyperbole? Because this is the hyperbole thread isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villastine Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I remember "Come on Villa, Come on Villa, Come on Villa, Come on!" & "Sing your heart out for the lads!" Much more effective than "we want Lerner out, say we want Lerner out!" or "Getting sacked in the morning!" - but y'know.. fans and that. Give us a break. With the expense and portion of your weekend that attending games costs, it’s really, really, frustrating to have to stomach 90mins of mind numbingly dour football. Fans have a right to expect to be entertained. This doesn’t mean playing total football. Hoof ball with a purpose can be just as entertaining. But watching a team who do not seem to want to attack at all is infuriating. It’s pretty naive to expect people to sing and cheer their way through 90mins when watching us play at the minute. Lambert needs to address this before the majority of fans turn on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 13 goals or nothin. Oi, Where has the Brummie accent post gone you cheeky sod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 13 goals or nothin. Oi, Where has the Brummie accent post gone you cheeky sod! I got scared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Why the hyperbole? Because this is the hyperbole thread isn't it? What breathtaking nonsense. There's no hyperbole on this thread whatsoever. Worst post in VT history. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meregreen Posted January 13, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2015 I was there in 68. Villa fans then were not prepared to sit idly by and do nothing . We chanted" the board must go" at every game. We held demonstrations and held meetings, a big one at Digbeth civic hall. We all loved our club too much to watch it die a slow death. From those actions, change was initiated. We suffered set backs, but the seeds of a better club were planted. Doing nothing, will change nothing. Were Villa fans then, a tougher bunch, maybe they were, but this club is drifting, much as it was back then. An inept board, an uninspiring manager, a group of players, some of which are not fit to play for the club. There are those who believe that doing nowt, except turning up, not rocking the boat, and meekly accepting our fate. is supporting the club. We ALL support the club, its just that some of us are prepared to actively defend its future. The embers from 68 are still smouldering in my belly. Time to fan the flames again I think. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I remember "Come on Villa, Come on Villa, Come on Villa, Come on!" & "Sing your heart out for the lads!" Much more effective than "we want Lerner out, say we want Lerner out!" or "Getting sacked in the morning!" - but y'know.. fans and that. Give us a break. With the expense and portion of your weekend that attending games costs, it’s really, really, frustrating to have to stomach 90mins of mind numbingly dour football. Fans have a right to expect to be entertained. This doesn’t mean playing total football. Hoof ball with a purpose can be just as entertaining. But watching a team who do not seem to want to attack at all is infuriating. It’s pretty naive to expect people to sing and cheer their way through 90mins when watching us play at the minute. Lambert needs to address this before the majority of fans turn on him. I understand what you mean, football is different in the way it's only good if you're winning (usually). But EVERYONE knows what's happening behind the scenes, we all know we're on the decline and we all know the reasons for that decline. So to expect to go there and us to be anything other than what we are (apart from the lack of goals, that's pretty poor excuse I agree) is deluded. If you know you're not going to enjoy the game, give your ticket to someone who will. Don't go if you don't have a ticket and if you still decide to go after those thoughts, then you may as well get behind the 11 blokes on the field. None of them are trying to be shit, none of them play and think "I can't be arsed with this today", so be supportive. The amount of nasty abuse you hear if someone mis-controls the ball in the Holte End is disgraceful, and it's usually being yelled by blokes who clearly know ruck all about football and have clearly never played, such is their mammoth size. It doesn't help. It hinders. It makes the players go further into their shells, play more safely (see defensively) and as a result makes us a worse team. Before the negativity set in against Palace for example, we had 2 GREAT chances, but then as soon as the crowd got edgy, we played visibly worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Joint 12th-13 ha ha ha, an that's justification of some sort. If we are there after 3-4 games I will bow down, ha ha what a joke. As for supporting the team, I have seen no less difference in the quality of football chanting Lambert out in the game against Leicester as I have in the last 2 seasons of his shite. Yeah we should be in the champions league for we are the mighty Aston Villa, it's all about history and high expectations nevermind realism. Didn't think I needed to have high expectations of actually scoring a goal against bottom of the league Leicester an close to there B team. An dont start blaming the fans chap to cover Lambert's arse, its not worth it. Its so so poor at the moment and you know it. We have no bearing on Lerner going, we are for sale that's,as far as it goes. If we want a change its gotta be Lambert, sorry but that's how it is. An before you say he is going know where, if the fans want him gone the majority will show it at the games and he will be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I was there in 68. Villa fans then were not prepared to sit idly by and do nothing . We chanted" the board must go" at every game. We held demonstrations and held meetings, a big one at Digbeth civic hall. We all loved our club too much to watch it die a slow death. From those actions, change was initiated. We suffered set backs, but the seeds of a better club were planted. Doing nothing, will change nothing. Were Villa fans then, a tougher bunch, maybe they were, but this club is drifting, much as it was back then. An inept board, an uninspiring manager, a group of players, some of which are not fit to play for the club. There are those who believe that doing nowt, except turning up, not rocking the boat, and meekly accepting our fate. is supporting the club. We ALL support the club, its just that some of us are prepared to actively defend its future. The embers from 68 are still smouldering in my belly. Time to fan the flames again I think. To put it bluntly, times have changed. The club isn't really a club any more, it's a private business who you give money to in return of tickets. No one from the club (that's important enough) will realistically meet with fans, listen and action what they have to say. By all means, if enough people do this, then something may happen, but you're going to need 10s of thousands of people to do anything and really, we haven't got the local fan base to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VILLAMARV Posted January 13, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2015 i can see you all think we're mad and I can see why you'd think that but i honestly think those of us that are still cutting lambert enough slack to stay in the job are just a little bit more realistic about AVFC, The Premier League, Lerner, Lerners divorce, The fact that we're up for sale and the management of the club throughout the last 7/8 years. Its pretty obviously boring after 5 years of saying the same thing but it doesnt mean the problems have gone away. Its easy to hate the guy. All these unwanted records and all that. It seems logical when youve grown up watching managers 'get sacked for less' all your life. It becomes more personal when you sit through the crap that was served up against Leicester. But seriously if you aint used to it by now guys...... Villa lose to bottom of the table team shocker!! last chance we had a sniff at the title we blew it by losing away to Oldham ffs. Its what we do pessimism is sort of ingrained in us from an early age. No one can deny we need to score goals - not even Lambert. but I think my viewpoint stems from the fact that pre season I expected us to be in that group of 'any 3 from 7' to go down and thats exactly where we are. The ONLY thing that I think will help us climb out of that group of teams and start competing with the likes of Everton, Stoke, Southampton, W.Ham, Swansea again is better players than we currently have. we're a good RB, LB, CM, 4x wingers, 2x ACM and a Striker away from having a really competative squad in my eyes. at our current rate of spending its gonna be a few years yet until we can look at that trip to Stoke without feeling a bit like the underdogs. Do I like that? Is that good enough for the pedestal I put my Villa on in my heart? - Of course not. Is me having a tantrum gonna change anything other than possibly forcing the hand of a disinterested owner into making a decision he really doesnt want to on something he has a proven track record of ineptitude? spending yet more money on managers when Its so glaringly obvious we need to invest in better players? Seriously guys be careful what you wish for, coz for every Pulis there are a fair few Shearers, Dowies and Magaths. Simple as that for me! UTV and we really do go again. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I was there in 68. Villa fans then were not prepared to sit idly by and do nothing . We chanted" the board must go" at every game. We held demonstrations and held meetings, a big one at Digbeth civic hall. We all loved our club too much to watch it die a slow death. From those actions, change was initiated. We suffered set backs, but the seeds of a better club were planted. Doing nothing, will change nothing. Were Villa fans then, a tougher bunch, maybe they were, but this club is drifting, much as it was back then. An inept board, an uninspiring manager, a group of players, some of which are not fit to play for the club. There are those who believe that doing nowt, except turning up, not rocking the boat, and meekly accepting our fate. is supporting the club. We ALL support the club, its just that some of us are prepared to actively defend its future. The embers from 68 are still smouldering in my belly. Time to fan the flames again I think. To put it bluntly, times have changed. The club isn't really a club any more, it's a private business who you give money to in return of tickets. No one from the club (that's important enough) will realistically meet with fans, listen and action what they have to say. By all means, if enough people do this, then something may happen, but you're going to need 10s of thousands of people to do anything and really, we haven't got the local fan base to do it. Times haven't changed, maybe some fans have though. Funnily enough clubs in 68 were privately owned, and we bought tickets in those days too. The board in 68 weren't falling over themselves to talk to us either. Your right we do need thousands to do something, care to be one of them? You seriously believe we don't "have the local fan base" to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 None of them are trying to be shit, none of them play and think "I can't be arsed with this today", so be supportive. The amount of nasty abuse you hear if someone mis-controls the ball in the Holte End is disgraceful, and it's usually being yelled by blokes who clearly know ruck all about football and have clearly never played, such is their mammoth size. It doesn't help. It hinders. It makes the players go further into their shells, play more safely (see defensively) and as a result makes us a worse team. Before the negativity set in against Palace for example, we had 2 GREAT chances, but then as soon as the crowd got edgy, we played visibly worse. I'm in no position to criticise the fans who [can and do] go to the games, and yeah it's their right to shout what they want, but I think fans who abuse players have a pretty poor understanding of psychology. Playing sports that are based on skill requires confidence, and playing them to your highest standard requires you to feel like an omnipotent god. This is tricky when you've overhit a pass and some fat **** in the stands has told you you're a useless word removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I was there in 68. Villa fans then were not prepared to sit idly by and do nothing . We chanted" the board must go" at every game. We held demonstrations and held meetings, a big one at Digbeth civic hall. We all loved our club too much to watch it die a slow death. From those actions, change was initiated. We suffered set backs, but the seeds of a better club were planted. Doing nothing, will change nothing. Were Villa fans then, a tougher bunch, maybe they were, but this club is drifting, much as it was back then. An inept board, an uninspiring manager, a group of players, some of which are not fit to play for the club. There are those who believe that doing nowt, except turning up, not rocking the boat, and meekly accepting our fate. is supporting the club. We ALL support the club, its just that some of us are prepared to actively defend its future. The embers from 68 are still smouldering in my belly. Time to fan the flames again I think. Spot on post. Some of today's fans believe that doing nothing except handing over hard earned cash to watch 90 minutes of dross is supporting the team and that anyone that cares passionately enough to do anything (whether it be boycott, chanting, holding up £ signs, draping blankets etc. etc.) is just 'small time' and worth nothing but ridicule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 but i honestly think those of us that are still cutting lambert enough slack to stay in the job are just a little bit more realistic about AVFC Rubbish. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ads Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) I was there in 68. Villa fans then were not prepared to sit idly by and do nothing . We chanted" the board must go" at every game. We held demonstrations and held meetings, a big one at Digbeth civic hall. We all loved our club too much to watch it die a slow death. From those actions, change was initiated. We suffered set backs, but the seeds of a better club were planted. Doing nothing, will change nothing. Were Villa fans then, a tougher bunch, maybe they were, but this club is drifting, much as it was back then. An inept board, an uninspiring manager, a group of players, some of which are not fit to play for the club. There are those who believe that doing nowt, except turning up, not rocking the boat, and meekly accepting our fate. is supporting the club. We ALL support the club, its just that some of us are prepared to actively defend its future. The embers from 68 are still smouldering in my belly. Time to fan the flames again I think. Aston Villa wasn't going for somehwere between £150-200 million in 1968. The game has changed, massively. Nothing will change till Lerner goes and Lerner isn't going anywhere for a long time. There aren't people willing to spend the best part of a quarter of a billion on a football club and then some to get us competing at the top again. As frustrating as it is to watch, and it was like pulling teeth at Leicester, you may as well save your breath, because its only being wasted. Edited January 13, 2015 by Ads 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grobs Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I think doing nothing would be scandalous but the 8 min walk out thing im seeing suggested on twitter seems stupid to me. Fans will have already purchased their ticket so Randy won't even care. What we should do is fill the stadium and support the boys till the end and stay for a while singing about how we want Lambert out. If he sees how many people actually want him out it might be enough to force it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 but i honestly think those of us that are still cutting lambert enough slack to stay in the job are just a little bit more realistic about AVFC Rubbish. No that really is what I think 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 but i honestly think those of us that are still cutting lambert enough slack to stay in the job are just a little bit more realistic about AVFC Rubbish. Careful VM, looks like you're up against the heavyweights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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