Ratings and Reactions: Man Utd 4-1 Villa

[OutByEaster?]

Ron Saunders would fail in the modern game. Society has changed, the whole idea of that sergeant major approach is gone, it's dead, modern day footballers would have him out of a job in a month. Of course, if Ron Saunders were managing now, he'd be a different Ron Saunders, but I suspect the modern game wouldn't have interested him and I'm prepared to bet that if he'd been born 30 years later he would never have gone into it.

[Wainy316]

Came out the ground without the usual deflated feeling after a defeat. Villa fans were brilliant and the further behind we went the funny the fans got. Not sure if I actually watched much of the last 15 minutes.

[Robbie09]

Ron Saunders would fail in the modern game. Society has changed, the whole idea of that sergeant major approach is gone, it's dead, modern day footballers would have him out of a job in a month. Of course, if Ron Saunders were managing now, he'd be a different Ron Saunders, but I suspect the modern game wouldn't have interested him and I'm prepared to bet that if he'd been born 30 years later he would never have gone into it.

 

Agree. John Gregory tried to adopt the same approach and it never worked hence why he dropped down the leagues.

[srsmithusa]

Maybe it's just me, but the fact that a really good post that says Ron Saunders would be different if he were managing today, is undoubtedly accurate, but just shows just how absurd some discussions on here can be.

If anybody is wondering, if I lived a hundred years ago, I would probably have cut my hair differently.

[Raver50032]

Did not expect anything from the game and my apathy towards the fixture as a consequence was rewarded with no surprise, though the severity if the final score rankles with the symmetry of the previous week's offering against Stoke. the balance was that on Friday, this felt like a free game as it always seems to be against Yanited. But cuddly Aston Villa, nailed on to help stop you losing 3 games on the spin at home... 7-1 over two games - the gulf in class is still there, even in a United off-season.

 

That's more about our Club as a whole, than the manager or the players - I cut the team and Paul some slack on that score in that fixture.

 

Villa couldn't win anyway - even if we won, it would all have been about how poor Yanited were... that plane protest... how shit Moyes appears to be etc. We would never have got the credit for a win, whether we deserved it or not. If we drew the game, - it would have been how Yanited managed (just) to stop the rot... And so it goes. Media storm predictability. We are small time in comparison.

 

Disappointing though, to go a goal up so early, only to be roasted in return by 4 goals. Could of, would of, should of applies for at least 1 Benteke chance. But we were well beaten. Always a cardinal sin for little teams like us (as smartly dressed as we were) to go a goal up so early at Mould Trafford. It's like kicking a hornets nest. NEVER - never, score early against United. It doesn't end well for clubs of our stature... Not for us anyway.

 

This next bit needs you to imagine Sky Sports News from Thursday this week, that plastic little Irish girl who appears on there, or Georgie Thompson with her pretend sultry (sex sells sport) voice... Or even Kirsty Gallagher's hyperactive jaw movements... Or 'snappy' Jim White who always seems to be shouting or overexcited about his grandiloquent mutterings.

 

So, how many times this season have we been in a position of 'Aston Villa play XXXX this weekend to prevent a run of 3 defeats in all competition (or 4)?' Just in time then to play plucky Fulham, coming off the back of a dismal 3-1 home stuffing to Everton... a Fulham team with a poorer away return than Stoke had... I really hope Villa turn up for the Fulham game.

 

One frequent VT poster stated fairly that we can't do anything about the lengthy list of home defeats this season, that they are all in the past and we need to get over it, move on etc.

 

Weighing up everything that I have seen and endured this season - I would be looking for regime change in the summer if we can't even beat the bottom club side at home after the rollickings that the gaffer must have dished out after our last two 4-1 defeats. There, I have almost said it. The difference being, I am not saying whether I think it should be a club that is sold, or a manager asked to jog in a different direction.

 

Cue a 6-2 win.

 

You just don't know what's in store for Aston Villa Football Club. #random

[momo]

It's rare that I agree with electric, but mata was running into a crowd, Rooney was drifting into space, I think the choice was pretty clear where the most danger lie. Clark made the wrong choice.

No Mata wasn't running into the crowd. He was running to the empty space in front of Clark, dragging him away from the center to where Rooney was running. He had to either take Mata or Rooney.

 

SEE

Edited March 31, 2014 by momo

[Electric Avenue]

Clark needed to stick with Rooney not get distracted by Mata running into nowhere land . Mata is not scoring with his head anytime soon. Rooney was left ridiculously open and unmarked by the irritable Clark.

[shaggy]

Ron Saunders would fail in the modern game. Society has changed, the whole idea of that sergeant major approach is gone, it's dead, modern day footballers would have him out of a job in a month. Of course, if Ron Saunders were managing now, he'd be a different Ron Saunders, but I suspect the modern game wouldn't have interested him and I'm prepared to bet that if he'd been born 30 years later he would never have gone into it.

 

Agree. John Gregory tried to adopt the same approach and it never worked hence why he dropped down the leagues.

He did ok with us.

[momo]

Clark needed to stick with Rooney not get distracted by Mata running into nowhere land . Mata is not scoring with his head anytime soon. Rooney was left ridiculously open and unmarked by the irritable Clark.

Like I said. Whatever decision Clark chose, it would have been a mistake in the eyes of Villa "supporters".  if he had stayed with Rooney, Kagawa would have passed to Mata. Mata would be free and could score. What Villa "supporters" should be focusing on, is where the **** was Vlaar?? He should have been next to Clark. If you really don't want to blame Vlaar, then where the **** was the midfielders that should have been tracking the united players and protecting the back four? This scape goat thing is very boring, and in my opinion Clark was the better central defender against man u. Vlaar had a terrible game again for the second time running. Maybe he will make it a hattrick agaisnt Fulham.

[The_Steve]

Here's Fellaini's elbow on Vlaar. Conveniently missed by Atkinson. He actually gave the foul AGAINST Vlaar.

 

[Raver50032]

Nasty piece of work that Fellaini guy. He does that quite a lot.

 

I wish someone would shave off that hair while he was asleep.

Edited March 31, 2014 by Raver50032

[rjw63]

Nasty piece of work that Fellaini guy. He does that quite a lot.

 

I wish someone would shave off that hair while he was asleep.

I wish someone would drug him and surgically remove his elbows. That'd **** him up.

[villa4europe]

just seen this - 

 

 

did they show that on MOTD? cant remember it during the match, wasnt shown on goals on sunday, those dirty foreigners ruining our game with their cheating...

Edited March 31, 2014 by villa4europe

[chappy]

Maybe he will make it a hattrick agaisnt Fulham.

300/1 on a Ron Vlaar hat trick against Fulham, tempted

[Electric Avenue]

Clark needed to stick with Rooney not get distracted by Mata running into nowhere land . Mata is not scoring with his head anytime soon. Rooney was left ridiculously open and unmarked by the irritable Clark.

Like I said. Whatever decision Clark chose, it would have been a mistake in the eyes of Villa "supporters".  if he had stayed with Rooney, Kagawa would have passed to Mata. Mata would be free and could score. What Villa "supporters" should be focusing on, is where the **** was Vlaar?? He should have been next to Clark. If you really don't want to blame Vlaar, then where the **** was the midfielders that should have been tracking the united players and protecting the back four? This scape goat thing is very boring, and in my opinion Clark was the better central defender against man u. Vlaar had a terrible game again for the second time running. Maybe he will make it a hattrick agaisnt Fulham.

Nonsense although I'd agree vlaar was shocking. Almost as bad as Clark.

[Pez1974]

Really starting to question the manager now.......

 

We pretty much play the same team each week, yet the gulf in the standard of performances is massive. This has to be down to the manager and his coaches.

 

The players seem utterly confused about their roles unless it is to try and defend and then break quickly. This has to be down to the manager and his coaches.

 

Poisitionally, the players get too easily dragged to where they shouldn't be. Although the quality of the players remains a question, ultimately, this has to be down to the manager and his coaches.

 

Some of the changes being made seem very odd to me, and although the manager is clearly in a better position than I to judge, I am now starting to doubt the man.

 

Too many in the squad are simply not good enough. The manager has spent a lot of money, and although he needed to overhaul the squad, too much money has been spent on players not up to it.

 

I fear for next season.

[Hev]

Asked my passengers for the drive to Man U to arrive at my house for 8.45 (leaving plenty of time), arrived late, we set off at 9.20 so I took the toll road to make a bit of time up.   Stopped briefly at Knutsford, left motorway around 11.00 - hit a bit of traffic on A556, eventually cleared where a lot of traffic takes the M(whatever it is) into Manchester, we stayed on A56 as we always do when going to Man U.   11.30 , hit some traffic on the A56, stationary.  12.45 game kicks off, we have moved about 2 miles.   Have, in the intervening period asked several people if it was worth just parking and walking but they said we were about 5 miles away.   Lots of traffic turning round, we decided to give up and do the same.  Heading home, hear Villa take an early lead on radio, find a Pub to watch, whilst parking, hear Man U equalise.   Have a nice lunch in a nice pub (George & Dragon in Altrincham) whilst watching on BT Sport.   See it go to 3-1.  Leave pub at 80 mins and head home - no delays - back in house for 4.30   Sulky passengers for trip home !  Let them off the petrol money (stupid me!) so all in all a waste of lots of money .   Apparently a lorry had overturned up ahead.   I don't think even had they delayed the kick off the people of the same road as me could have got there in time   .   Fed up with Villa, fed up with Benteke being over hyped, when he is good, he is good but it's not often enough. Fed up with most of the team,  Lambo, fed up with Lerner.  Fed up with Football.   Will I renew my ST next season - yes I guess so

 

Haven't even seen Westwood's goal as I didn't watch MOTD 

 

Signing off - thoroughly hacked off with it all.   Watch us lose to Fulham on Saturday now.  

[Isa]

did they show that on MOTD? cant remember it during the match, wasnt shown on goals on sunday, those dirty foreigners ruining our game with their cheating...

Not sure if serious.

[villa4europe]

[TRO]

Ron Saunders would fail in the modern game. Society has changed, the whole idea of that sergeant major approach is gone, it's dead, modern day footballers would have him out of a job in a month. Of course, if Ron Saunders were managing now, he'd be a different Ron Saunders, but I suspect the modern game wouldn't have interested him and I'm prepared to bet that if he'd been born 30 years later he would never have gone into it.

 

Thank god I had the pleasure of witnessing it all.....I guess choosing Tony Barton and  Roy McLaren played a big part in his success.

 

You could be right it what you say, but that could be said by just about everybody in every profession.....what all these people are good at is adapting to the times and applying themselves accordingly to achieve, so I'm not as certain as you that is the case, but it could be....If he was around today, he may not have been that sergeant major type because it wouldn't be required, he would have been something else.....but its all so hypothetical to try to take someone out of one era and put them in another, you can only really value them for the era they were in.