Ulver Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 There are NO positives to this signing other than it could be the end of Lambert Small positive but one i'll cling to as i to hold back the tears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobler Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 So we are loaning an out of form, over paid, Championship striker. I really doubt we're paying Holt more than a few grand - he's hardly on huge money at Wigan I think Holt signed a pretty big 3 year deal at Norwich in summer 2012, when people were going on about him making an England squad. So after that season, I doubt he moved to Wigan on a few grand a week. I'd expect him to be on significantly more than the likes of Bowery and Helenius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 So we are loaning an out of form, over paid, Championship striker. I really doubt we're paying Holt more than a few grand - he's hardly on huge money at Wigan Wigans highest paid player according to their Forum!! I wonder whether Dave Whelan will be paying half of his considerable wages if he signs on loan? That would be a first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parisvilla Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 So we are loaning an out of form, over paid, Championship striker. I really doubt we're paying Holt more than a few grand - he's hardly on huge money at Wigan You'd be surprised. He signed a 3 year deal on the back of Norwich's good first year in the Prem under Lambert. That was, if I remember correctly, post him threatening to hand in a transfer request because he wanted to move to a bigger club. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18695219) Wigan will have to have offered him a deal nearly as lucrative (if not equally so) for him to drop down a division. Coyle took him there as a marquee signing to play the Kevin Davies role that he so heavily relied on during his stint at Bolton. Terrible manager who did a terrible job at Wigan with this being one of his biggest errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 though not of same quality these comments remind me of Robbie Keane thread 2 years ago Not even remotely of the same quality, so your point is irrelevant. I think the point was that people weren't too chuffed when we got Robbie Keane, saying he was over the hill and another Pires-type signing at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 28k a week wasn't it ? BARGAIN (Bucket)We might as well have resigned Carew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raver50032 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Ant Hog... Nat Grot... Any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Well then IF we're paying out that kind of money for him on loan, which would make him one of our better paid players, the manager definitely has a lot to answer to, as well as the owner. How come we can get that kind of wage sanctioned for Holt on loan, but seemingly not for anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Meanwhile Hull look to sign Shane Long and Nikica Jelavic For their first team, so they can build with these players. Ours is a 4 month loan for back-up. There's no context to your post. So because it isnt exactly the same it has no context? I'm well aware of the differences, I'm also well aware that Hull have just improved their side, while we have signed a proper bloke, who is cover for a television mast who is currently edging legend status after three tap ins and a broken leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 As others have said I'll support the guy on the pitch but no matter how people spin it its just not a good signing and why? Because he isn't the player he was and he now struggles with fitness and also struggles getting into a mid-table Championship side. Midfield players at Wigan have been preferred up front to him. While we send the likes of Jordan Graham back out on loan we bring in this guy. Its ok though he'll knock some defenders about and cause havoc. Is this the 1980's? What other good team plays with a slow battering ram of little skill? f***i*g hoof 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 But this manager would rather get Robbie Keane in. Frimpong could have been got for half the wages and no loan fee. What a **** joke Lol Keane. Just like Jenas. Pointless And why the **** werent we in for Frimpong?? Exactly what we are missing in the middle. Full of running, gets stuck in and gets things moving. But we sign Keaneinstead. On twice the **** wages. Outrageous. Its bad enough having one pensioner off the friggin pace, we now have Petrov and bloody keane Hmmm Neither are shit but Keane is a useless old has been. Don't believe me? Well just sit back and watch. Quick search to show what people thought of the Robbie Keane signing at the time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Meanwhile Hull look to sign Shane Long and Nikica Jelavic For their first team, so they can build with these players. Ours is a 4 month loan for back-up. There's no context to your post. So because it isnt exactly the same it has no context? I'm well aware of the differences, I'm also well aware that Hull have just improved their side, while we have signed a proper bloke, who is cover for a television mast who is currently edging legend status after three tap ins and a broken leg. If we were signing GH on a permanent basis to be a part of the team going forward, I'd agree with you, but we haven't. He's costing very little to replace the injured Kozak for the rest of the season. Hull have brought those two in for a different reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 ........... If we were signing GH on a permanent basis to be a part of the team going forward, I'd agree with you, but we haven't. He's costing very little to replace the injured Kozak for the rest of the season. Hull have brought those two in for a different reason. OK so in respect to how much he will cost, wages? loan fee? etc - Again who will he replace in the squad? What is the thinking and justification for this signing? I appreciate your stance on Lambert but even you must be thinking this is strange especially given the state of the club and who / what we have here at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hmmm Neither are shit but Keane is a useless old has been. Don't believe me? Well just sit back and watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobler Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Meanwhile Hull look to sign Shane Long and Nikica Jelavic For their first team, so they can build with these players. Ours is a 4 month loan for back-up. There's no context to your post. So because it isnt exactly the same it has no context? I'm well aware of the differences, I'm also well aware that Hull have just improved their side, while we have signed a proper bloke, who is cover for a television mast who is currently edging legend status after three tap ins and a broken leg. If we were signing GH on a permanent basis to be a part of the team going forward, I'd agree with you, but we haven't. He's costing very little to replace the injured Kozak for the rest of the season. Hull have brought those two in for a different reason. How do we know he's costing nothing? We don't know if there's a loan fee yet and some believe he's on a contract of around 28k-30k a week at Wigan, who matched Norwich's deal the year before. Seems like no coincidence to me that this deal will go through now as Ireland's just sealed his permanent move to Stoke. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GarethRDR Posted January 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2014 Like I have said before, is this the BEST player available on a loan for 6 months? In the entire world? I do actually have a somewhat viable/sensible answer to this; if Holt is indeed merely coming in as cover for an injured Kozák, then the club has had all of a couple of weeks to scout for a suitable, temporary replacement. In that case, bringing in a player whom - in spite of being viewed as somewhat unpalatable - is already a known quantity to the manager and can operate specifically within the role that would be required does make sense. It's not like we could have foreseen Kozák's injury, there is only a small window of time within which to operate and the bulk of that time has to be spent bringing in any priority targets that would have been identified well in advance of the transfer window; scouring the globe for a more extravagant/leftfield option to a temporary problem should not be our focus right now. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Agree, to say he's costing "very little" is clearly just wishful thinking/myth-making. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 So how many are going to BMH or the ground to greet him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 ........... If we were signing GH on a permanent basis to be a part of the team going forward, I'd agree with you, but we haven't. He's costing very little to replace the injured Kozak for the rest of the season. Hull have brought those two in for a different reason. OK so in respect to how much he will cost, wages? loan fee? etc - Again who will he replace in the squad? What is the thinking and justification for this signing? I appreciate your stance on Lambert but even you must be thinking this is strange especially given the state of the club and who / what we have here at the moment? Kozak. I did think it was a strange one at first, but to ably stand-in for Kozak for the rest of this season, as well as adding a bit of savvy to the likes of Helenius (and others that will be part of the future) I fail to see the harm. Add Kozak not been injured we wouldn't be debating GH. I guess the opinion rests on whether one believes Kozak was a useful squad member. As joint top scorer prior to last night's game, I did - therefore he needed replacing. If we're chasing a game, or defending a lead, I'd rather bring GH on than Bowery at this stage. Helenius will get his call, but both he, his agent and PL have said he's adjusting. Having GH around - someone that may not be blessed by the footballing gods, yet managed to score 23 goals in the premier league in 2 seasons, can only help him along too. Not jumping for joy, but I fail to see anything to get worked up about here. I guess my opinion that he won't come in at the expense of any other target is helping me along too - but that is pure guesswork on my part. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelboyVilla Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Still got no one to pass or cross to which ever striker we play! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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