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Transfer Speculation (Winter 2014)


Richard

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Premier League rules limit clubs to just two season-long domestic loans but international deals are, essentially, limitless.

We have Holt and Bertrand, therefore we can't take another domestic loan signing

Neither Holt or Bertrand are season-long loans though...

 

 

They would be considered "long-term" loans if they are here until June, or greater than 93 days.

 

This means we are able to loan 2 more players until the end of the season, but they cannot originate from Chelsea or Norwich, unless we have agreed to buy Holt or Bertrand at the end of the loan agreement, or agree to buy the new loanee.  Congruently, this means we will not target a loan deal for Hoolahan unless we agree to buy him in July, or have already agreed to buy Holt.

 

Norwich? Holt is from wigan remember.

 

 

Sorry, yes - you're correct!

 

 

So does that change things at all or is it domestic anyway? I've seen people say two from the same league.

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Heard a rumour we are trying to get Valter Birsa on loan. Dont know much about him but how credible it is i dont know. Just thought i would post to keep things interesting on here.

Not a bad player but I would like to see Albrighton keep playing if Lambert wants wingers. Not even sure why Albrighton has rarely featured lately. He has done well.

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Heard a rumour we are trying to get Valter Birsa on loan. Dont know much about him but how credible it is i dont know. Just thought i would post to keep things interesting on here.

Birsa is terrible

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Heard a rumour we are trying to get Valter Birsa on loan. Dont know much about him but how credible it is i dont know. Just thought i would post to keep things interesting on here.

Birsa is terrible

Has he not played 16 times for AC this season?

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Heard a rumour we are trying to get Valter Birsa on loan. Dont know much about him but how credible it is i dont know. Just thought i would post to keep things interesting on here.

Birsa is terrible

Has he not played 16 times for AC this season?

 

yeah, I follow Milan as my second team. I have watched every single minute of their season so far. Milan have been dire, his perfomances have been appauling for the most part apart from one decent goal. I really cannot see him being suited to the premier league

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That said, I don't think a Premiership club has ever loaned a lower league player before

I doubt that's true

It's not. West Ham took Roger Johnson on loan barely two weeks previous.

I'm still unsure on the rules. The above doesn't seem to clear anything up. If anyone is that interested perhaps an email to the FA would clear things up.

 

 

Sorry, I will try to summarise my take on the rules:

 

1) A maximum of 4 "temporary players" or "Long term loans" are permitted per club with the minimum period defined as being that between two consecutive windows:  i.e., between August-January, or January-June.  Per the FA: "Long Term Loan Transfers shall be for a full Playing Season; or from any date prior to 31st August to any date between 1st and 31st January; or from any date between 1st and 31st January (the January transfer window) to the end of the Playing Season."

 

2) A maximum of 12 "short-term" loan players per season, with the loan  period being a minimum of 28 days and a maximum of 93 days.  These are not considered "temporary players" or "long term loans" since the maximum period for these loans is shorter than the minimum period described in 1). 

 

3) No more than 2 players may be loaned from clubs within the same division and no more than 1 loan from the same team, unless that player is either a) a goalkeeper or B) where there is an agreement in place between clubs that the loaned player is purchased at the end of the loan agreement.

 

4) "Foreign loans", i.e, players originating outside the The Premier League, The Football League, The Football Conference, The Isthmian Football League, The Northern Premier League and The Southern Football League, are not considered loan signings by the FA (even though a loan agreement is made between clubs), and thus do not count to the quotas above.

 

I am open to correction, but I believe these are correct.  

 

By the looks of Everton it must be two domestic loans (Barry and Lukaku) and two (Deulofeu and Traore) from either aboard or the Championship, four loans in total. So we would be able to get Lescott on loan, depending on the wage demands; City were reported to be refusing to pay anything towards his 95k p/w wages.

Obviously I wouldn't say no to JL, he is better than Clark and would cover any further injuries to either Vlaar, Clark or Baker, but we still need a NUMBER 10.

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So does that change things at all or is it domestic anyway? I've seen people say two from the same league.

 

 

Actually, the Premier League and FA rules do not mention any restriction on the number of loans which may be made between clubs in the same competition.

 

It certainly appears to be a maximum of four domestic loans per season, with no more than one loan from any one team (barring the exceptions).  

 

It is, however, ambiguous as to whether a maximum of two long-term loans may be made per window - the rules state that no more than two loan players may be registered at the same time (two loans per window equates to a maximum of four per season, but does same time mean same window?!).

 

The FA rules also make a clear distinction between short-term loans (28-93 days) and emergency loans (available to conference national clubs), but both these loan types do not appear to be possible for Premier League clubs, unless that player to be loaned is outbound from the Premier League club.  While the FA rules do not explicitly exclude Premier League clubs being able to loan players on the short-term basis, (28-93 days), the Premier League rules make no mention of the short-term loan whatsoever.  In fact, this article muddies the waters further, amalgamating short-term loans and emergency-loans into one emergency loan window, which is possible for the 72 football league clubs existing outside the Premier League.

 

I admit defeat with the rules and will now bow out, shamefully :blush: Someone call in an expert, or at least someone able to make sense of it all.  Sorry!

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Arsenal are ready to let Emmanuel Frimpong leave in January, his contract runs out in the summer. What are people's opinion on him? I don't know that much about him other than he did his ACL not long ago (last year?).

 

A strong defensive midfielder, only 22 years old. Could he be useful?

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