SikhInTrinity Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I think many are underestimating Fox here, the thing with Lambert was he always had Lerner in his corner hence the dithering, this one will be if Fox wants him out he will be gone in a shot. I am not so sure on this. If Sherwood was Fox’s choice then is he really going to go to Lerner and say the manager I chose a few months ago, the manager who succeeded in his only remit to keep us up last season and threw in the bonus of a cup final, the manager who we have allowed to oversee a huge turn over in players over the summer, well we are now 8 games into the new season and I think I may have dropped a bollock. I just don’t see it at this stage. It is going to cost I’d imagine upwards of 5 mill to pay off Sherwood and his staff. Now before the expected well relegation will cost us x amount of millions it is still a big call for Fox to admit a few months ago he was wrong and it is going to cost millions.It is highly unlikely we will sack Sherwood anytime soon and certainly not before the Swansea game. I think many are underestimating Fox here, the thing with Lambert was he always had Lerner in his corner hence the dithering, this one will be if Fox wants him out he will be gone in a shot. I am not so sure on this. If Sherwood was Fox’s choice then is he really going to go to Lerner and say the manager I chose a few months ago, the manager who succeeded in his only remit to keep us up last season and threw in the bonus of a cup final, the manager who we have allowed to oversee a huge turn over in players over the summer, well we are now 8 games into the new season and I think I may have dropped a bollock. I just don’t see it at this stage. It is going to cost I’d imagine upwards of 5 mill to pay off Sherwood and his staff. Now before the expected well relegation will cost us x amount of millions it is still a big call for Fox to admit a few months ago he was wrong and it is going to cost millions.It is highly unlikely we will sack Sherwood anytime soon and certainly not before the Swansea game. For Fox it is business, if he can see that there is no improvement coming and he's effectively already started the blame game, then it shows he's out of his dept and is trying to protect his own image. It'll cost us millions to sack him but it will cripple the club should we go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashingqwerty Posted October 8, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2015 Doubt tim will be in any danger til xmas. If we are in the bottom 3 then i think he will get the bullet. But who would want the job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) Whats the point in firing him then?We will be too far adrift on points for anybody who has half a brain to come in and take the jobIf we stick with him till xmas he will probably still be our manager in the championship next season Edited October 8, 2015 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Doubt tim will be in any danger til xmas. If we are in the bottom 3 then i think he will get the bullet. But who would want the job?Managers want jobs. Always. I've no doubt we could still attract a Moyes or a Big Sam. Always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Well TF sat idly by while WBA appointed Pullis , and now looks set to do the same with Big Sam poised for Sunderland - Hes going to look even more of a prize tit - if he dumps Sherwood after the next couple of games. Its 90% certain that Sherwood can't cut it at this level - TF seems to want to wait until its 100% - I despair at the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 It reality it will be Tom Fox that keeps us up (sacks Sherwood and appoints an actual manager) or sends us down (waits too long to sack Sherwood). So the ball is in his court and he'll decide the fate of Aston Villa. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 It reality it will be Tom Fox that keeps us up (sacks Sherwood and appoints an actual manager) or sends us down (waits too long to sack Sherwood). So the ball is in his court and he'll decide the fate of Aston Villa.Very True - and I have very little confidence he will do the right thing at the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 It reality it will be Tom Fox that keeps us up (sacks Sherwood and appoints an actual manager) or sends us down (waits too long to sack Sherwood). So the ball is in his court and he'll decide the fate of Aston Villa. Very True - and I have very little confidence he will do the right thing at the right time. like that time he sacked Lambert and appointed Sherwood to keep us up and get us to a cup final? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 It reality it will be Tom Fox that keeps us up (sacks Sherwood and appoints an actual manager) or sends us down (waits too long to sack Sherwood). So the ball is in his court and he'll decide the fate of Aston Villa. Very True - and I have very little confidence he will do the right thing at the right time. like that time he sacked Lambert and appointed Sherwood to keep us up and get us to a cup final?Was that the right thing at the right time ? - should he not have sacked Lambert earlier and Got Moyes or Pullis in ? - then I don't think we would now be looking at making another change now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 he definite made the right decision not bringing in the charlatan Pulis and Moyes was in Spain before Fox really got into the Villa job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwdriver Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 If Fox isn't busy talking to out of work managers right now regardless of what happens against Chelsea we really are up excrement creek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 If Fox isn't busy talking to out of work managers right now regardless of what happens against Chelsea we really are up excrement creek. Yup thats about the long and short of short of it - probably get Brendan Rodgers at the end of Jan.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tylerreznik Posted October 9, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) I think Fox is smarter than sticking with a losing bet just to protect his ego because he was the one that brought Sherwood in. Really hope so anyway, if not we really have no hope whatsoever.1. Stick with Sherwood till the end of season, relegated likely with lowest points tally ever, he looks a fool unlikely to get a CEO gig in football again2. Stick with Sherwood till Jan, damage likely done by then and still be relegated, could be argued he gave Sherwood every possible chance and was let down by the Cockney Clown3. Make a bold call and get rid of Sherwood this month, find a manager with half a brain, admit it didn't work out with Sherwood, save the club from relegation and make name for himself as an Exec who's not afraid to make big decisive call and nor pander to his own egoAlso pretty sure he brought in Almstadt as Director as Football for a reason, and right about now will be far more interested in what Almstadt has to say than Sherwood. Edited October 9, 2015 by tylerreznik 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 he definite made the right decision not bringing in the charlatan Pulis and Moyes was in Spain before Fox really got into the Villa jobYou keep calling Pulis a 'charlatan'. I don't see how that makes any sense. He doesn't expend any effort pretending to be something other than he is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 he definite made the right decision not bringing in the charlatan Pulis and Moyes was in Spain before Fox really got into the Villa jobYou keep calling Pulis a 'charlatan'. I don't see how that makes any sense. He doesn't expend any effort pretending to be something other than he is. It seems to be VT's word of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 he definite made the right decision not bringing in the charlatan Pulis and Moyes was in Spain before Fox really got into the Villa job You keep calling Pulis a 'charlatan'. I don't see how that makes any sense. He doesn't expend any effort pretending to be something other than he is. Was people in the media(one particular football host who I cant stand) last season claiming he should have got the United job ahead of Van Gaal also the same media building him up like he was a tactical genius even though he is no better than Eck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 he definite made the right decision not bringing in the charlatan Pulis and Moyes was in Spain before Fox really got into the Villa job You keep calling Pulis a 'charlatan'. I don't see how that makes any sense. He doesn't expend any effort pretending to be something other than he is. Was people in the media(one particular football host who I cant stand) last season claiming he should have got the United job ahead of Van Gaal also the same media building him up like he was a tactical genius even though he is no better than Eck But my point is that doesn't make him a charlatan. It makes some people in the media a bit deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Not as good as many people say he is.He wont act now despite all the evidence, he will dither until the job for the next man is impossible and anyone of quality will rule themselves out.Tim was his call while Lambert wasnt and that is the difference Have you got next week's lottery numbers?Yes I do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Not as good as many people say he is.He wont act now despite all the evidence, he will dither until the job for the next man is impossible and anyone of quality will rule themselves out.Tim was his call while Lambert wasnt and that is the difference Have you got next week's lottery numbers?Or are you privvy to what Tom Fox is thinking because you're saying that with a seemingly high degree of certainty as to what he will/won't do. Time will tell if I am right. I hope I am wrong and he acts quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Here's how we can applaud his decision to keep Sherwood for the time being: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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