Davkaus Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 His England career is average at best. Which pretty much makes him one of England's top players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted January 7, 2014 Moderator Share Posted January 7, 2014 I think it's a little wide of the mark to say he won't be missed by England. He's a goal threat and they're thin on the ground over there at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 We have Andros Townsend have bof. The world cup is as good as ours 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 He would've been critical for England. He struggles sometimes with arsenal because stylistically he's better with space than on a team that's trying to pass through the defense, and England will certainly play on the counter against the better sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 They have a new deal with Puma worth 30m a year. How much do we get from our deal? Cant see how we could ever compete in this league when they can get deals like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepDish Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 And just wait to Manchester United sign a new deal with Nike. That will probably be even more staggering. Maybe double Arsenal's deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 27, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) United get £10m a year from DHL to sponsor their training kit. TRAINING KIT! Edited January 27, 2014 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Who needs competition when you can have moneeeeeeeeeeyyyyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Unreal ain't it Literally don't have a chance basically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 FFP in all its glory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Not sure you understand FFP mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Not sure you understand FFP mate. I think he understand it perfectly. It's for the top clubs to create a feudal system where no other club can become big. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Clearly you don't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Clearly you don't either. Explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted January 28, 2014 Moderator Share Posted January 28, 2014 FFP in all its glory Not sure you understand FFP mate. Maybe the point being made by av1 is that FFP has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of money that Arsenal get for shirt sponsoring from Puma. FFP has its faults, though not as many as people allege, IMO. But Arsenal's deal will reflect their long record of finishing in the top 4 and thus being in the Champions league, getting worldwide coverage, 60K gates and having built up a huge fanbase and so on. Arsenal anyway run their club in such a way as to not be affected by FFP in terms of it making them chave to change their business plan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Arsenal in talks to sign Draxler: http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/9139706/transfer-news-arsenal-in-talks-over-schalke-midfielder-julian-draxler Draxler, Ozil, Cazorla, Wilshere, Ramsey (on this seasons showing) - amazing midfield selection. Edited January 29, 2014 by bobzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 FFP in all its glory Not sure you understand FFP mate. Maybe the point being made by av1 is that FFP has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of money that Arsenal get for shirt sponsoring from Puma. FFP has its faults, though not as many as people allege, IMO. But Arsenal's deal will reflect their long record of finishing in the top 4 and thus being in the Champions league, getting worldwide coverage, 60K gates and having built up a huge fanbase and so on. Arsenal anyway run their club in such a way as to not be affected by FFP in terms of it making them chave to change their business plan. would they be getting a deal that big if it wasnt for FFP? i would argue that the deal is largely down to market values, say for example liverpool and their deal with warrior, which is inflated due the owner have ties with the brand, man city and their deal with etihad, PSG and their deal with emirates, barca and their intel deal, utd with dhl.... would the deals be this high if it wasnt for FFP? personally i doubt it then as I and Rovers were alluding to the knock on effect is that forget that we cant compete with arsenal financially, we aren't allowed to compete with arsenal financially even if randy started feeling generous again fans of FFP will no doubt say we should copy arsenal's business model and get smarter off the pitch, when we do, and we sign our £30m a year shirt deal, how much do you think arsenal's will be worth? deals like this just highlight for me what a terrible rule it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 29, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2014 FFP in all its glory Not sure you understand FFP mate. Maybe the point being made by av1 is that FFP has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of money that Arsenal get for shirt sponsoring from Puma. FFP has its faults, though not as many as people allege, IMO. But Arsenal's deal will reflect their long record of finishing in the top 4 and thus being in the Champions league, getting worldwide coverage, 60K gates and having built up a huge fanbase and so on. Arsenal anyway run their club in such a way as to not be affected by FFP in terms of it making them chave to change their business plan. would they be getting a deal that big if it wasnt for FFP? i would argue that the deal is largely down to market values, say for example liverpool and their deal with warrior, which is inflated due the owner have ties with the brand, man city and their deal with etihad, PSG and their deal with emirates, barca and their intel deal, utd with dhl.... would the deals be this high if it wasnt for FFP? personally i doubt it then as I and Rovers were alluding to the knock on effect is that forget that we cant compete with arsenal financially, we aren't allowed to compete with arsenal financially even if randy started feeling generous again fans of FFP will no doubt say we should copy arsenal's business model and get smarter off the pitch, when we do, and we sign our £30m a year shirt deal, how much do you think arsenal's will be worth? deals like this just highlight for me what a terrible rule it is Why would a company, completely unaffiliated with the club (before the deal obviously) pay way way more for their sponsorship deal just because of FFP? If Man City start getting the scoreboard sponsored by the chairman's dad for £100 million a season then the weaknesses of FFP come into play. But I don't see why Puma would give a shit about FFP to be honest. It doesn't affect them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 of course it does if liverpool can get a shirt deal worth £25m a year then arsenal can open negotiations with the suggestion that their shirt is worth more due to the higher league position / champions league the fact that liverpools record shirt deal was largely down to connections with warrior at board room level is because of it helping them boost their figures in line with FFP emirates sponsor PSG how much a year? which is another way round FFP, who sponsor arsenal? so again arsenal who have greater exposure can open negotiations which inflated figures same can be applied when negotiating the stadium deal im not saying every club has had money pumped in as a way of getting round FFP but the fact that a few have has inflated the market and put arsenal in a great position, puma obviously arent aiding arsenal, they're just paying the going rate arsenal were top 4 and CL regulars under nike, sometime in the last 2 years arsenals kit became worth £21m more? for no reason what so ever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 of course it does if liverpool can get a shirt deal worth £25m a year then arsenal can open negotiations with the suggestion that their shirt is worth more due to the higher league position / champions league the fact that liverpools record shirt deal was largely down to connections with warrior at board room level is because of it helping them boost their figures in line with FFP emirates sponsor PSG how much a year? which is another way round FFP, who sponsor arsenal? so again arsenal who have greater exposure can open negotiations which inflated figures same can be applied when negotiating the stadium deal im not saying every club has had money pumped in as a way of getting round FFP but the fact that a few have has inflated the market and put arsenal in a great position, puma obviously arent aiding arsenal, they're just paying the going rate arsenal were top 4 and CL regulars under nike, sometime in the last 2 years arsenals kit became worth £21m more? for no reason what so ever... They can open negotiations wherever they like but they can only get a deal where someone (puma here) will agree. Looks like Puma think its worthwile as have no benefit from paying more than they should. Thus this is the market price, where demand = supply. Nothing to do with FFP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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