Rovers13 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) "So I think I speak for all of us when I say, Wenger piss off so we can win a trophy again!" Arsenal fans, august 2013 (and maybe now too) Edited March 21, 2014 by Rovers13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 They'll probably win the FA cup.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Whatever you think of him, a foreign manager making 1000th games in english football is worthy of respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 well if Wenger left tomorrow and compare what he would leave his replacement to what Fergie has left Moyes would be a better achievement instead of the trophies they haven't won in last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Yes I like Wenger so I'll be sad when he does go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Wenger isn't as fun to have around now that Ferguson is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26711403rsenal's Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Kieran Gibbs have both been cleared after Gibbs was mistakenly sent off in Saturday's 6-0 defeat to Chelsea. A Football Association panel decided that referee Andre Marriner not only dismissed the wrong player, but that Oxlade-Chamberlain's goal-line handball did not deserve a red card. Neither player will serve any ban following the incident. Marriner will referee Southampton's home game with Newcastle on Saturday. Absolutely disgusting decision imo. Edited March 24, 2014 by av1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roonst83 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26711403rsenal's Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Kieran Gibbs have both been cleared after Gibbs was mistakenly sent off in Saturday's 6-0 defeat to Chelsea. A Football Association panel decided that referee Andre Marriner not only dismissed the wrong player, but that Oxlade-Chamberlain's goal-line handball did not deserve a red card. Neither player will serve any ban following the incident. Marriner will referee Southampton's home game with Newcastle on Saturday. Absolutely disgusting decision imo. How the absolute f.uck has Oxlade-Chamberlain not been punished?? Complete madness. Deliberate hand ball. Oxlade wasn't trying to prevent a goal kick, he was trying to prevent a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrinityRoadSteps Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 The law's an ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26711403rsenal's Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Kieran Gibbs have both been cleared after Gibbs was mistakenly sent off in Saturday's 6-0 defeat to Chelsea. A Football Association panel decided that referee Andre Marriner not only dismissed the wrong player, but that Oxlade-Chamberlain's goal-line handball did not deserve a red card. Neither player will serve any ban following the incident. Marriner will referee Southampton's home game with Newcastle on Saturday. Absolutely disgusting decision imo. How the absolute f.uck has Oxlade-Chamberlain not been punished?? Complete madness. Deliberate hand ball. Oxlade wasn't trying to prevent a goal kick, he was trying to prevent a goal. Because the ball was going wide so it shouldn't have been a red in the first place. Sorry but for once i think the FA have got it right. Edited March 24, 2014 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrinityRoadSteps Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 If the ball was going wide then why did Oxlade Chamberlain do what he did. He did it because he thought it was going in. I defy anyone in real time in the middle of the game to say definitively if that was going wide or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Did ox know it was going wide? Of course not or he wouldn't have done it, the fact is that he knew he was cheating, he knew he was trying to deny a goal, it was a red every day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26711403rsenal's Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Kieran Gibbs have both been cleared after Gibbs was mistakenly sent off in Saturday's 6-0 defeat to Chelsea. A Football Association panel decided that referee Andre Marriner not only dismissed the wrong player, but that Oxlade-Chamberlain's goal-line handball did not deserve a red card. Neither player will serve any ban following the incident. Marriner will referee Southampton's home game with Newcastle on Saturday. Absolutely disgusting decision imo. How the absolute f.uck has Oxlade-Chamberlain not been punished?? Complete madness. Deliberate hand ball. Oxlade wasn't trying to prevent a goal kick, he was trying to prevent a goal. Because the ball was going wide so it shouldn't have been a red in the first place. Sorry but for once i think the FA have got it right. Does it really matter? The referee cannot see (well, duh!) if the ball is going out or not in the heat of the moment, the player clearly thinks the ball is going in since he is deliberately using his hand and so on. So in my opinion you have to go with intent, no matter if the ball is going outside the post. It's easy to comment after the game when we have cameras from all angles. For example; what if the ball has a wicked curve to it, so it seems like it's going outside (think Roberto Carlos), but if you carefully examine the video you will see that it is going to go in the net except for a hand-ball. Then what? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) Did ox know it was going wide? Of course not or he wouldn't have done it, the fact is that he knew he was cheating, he knew he was trying to deny a goal, it was a red every day of the week. That's not how it works. The rule doesn't say "intent to deny a goal scoring opportunity." Edited March 24, 2014 by Rovers13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrinityRoadSteps Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Did ox know it was going wide? Of course not or he wouldn't have done it, the fact is that he knew he was cheating, he knew he was trying to deny a goal, it was a red every day of the week. That's not how it works. The rule doesn't say "intent to deny a goal scoring opportunity." No. It says denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area) Oxlade Chamberlain did what he did because he thought the ball was going in. So in his mind he was denying the opposing team a goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Did ox know it was going wide? Of course not or he wouldn't have done it, the fact is that he knew he was cheating, he knew he was trying to deny a goal, it was a red every day of the week. That's not how it works. The rule doesn't say "intent to deny a goal scoring opportunity." Oxlade Chamberlain didn't know that. The player who shot the ball tried to hit the goal, obviously. Sure we can all see that the ball is going outside on TV, but what if a player shoots the ball from 20 yards only for it to be blocked intentionally by a sole defender after 5 yards of flight? The referee cannot possibly know if that ball is going in the net or one yard outside the post, but he would most definitely give a red card and a penalty. It's a shot from 12 yards, in that melee the referee isn't going to know that the ball is going outside when a player intentionally uses his hand. The linesman cannot either, the only thing he sees is a hand altering the path and then it goes outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) Did ox know it was going wide? Of course not or he wouldn't have done it, the fact is that he knew he was cheating, he knew he was trying to deny a goal, it was a red every day of the week.That's not how it works. The rule doesn't say "intent to deny a goal scoring opportunity." No. It saysdenying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area) Oxlade Chamberlain did what he did because he thought the ball was going in. So in his mind he was denying the opposing team a goal It was deliberate, but it wasn't denying them a goal because the ball was going wide. It doesn't matter that he didn't know that or what he thought. It's not a red. I can understand why the ref gave a red, because it's tough to tell in real time. Edited March 24, 2014 by Rovers13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Did ox know it was going wide? Of course not or he wouldn't have done it, the fact is that he knew he was cheating, he knew he was trying to deny a goal, it was a red every day of the week. That's not how it works. The rule doesn't say "intent to deny a goal scoring opportunity." No. It saysdenying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area) Oxlade Chamberlain did what he did because he thought the ball was going in. So in his mind he was denying the opposing team a goal It was deliberate, but it wasn't denying them a goal because the ball was going wide. It doesn't matter that he didn't know that or what he thought. It's not a red. I can understand why the ref gave a red, because it's tough to tell in real time. Makes no sense. The ref cannot judge the path of the ball, what if a shot has a curl before it is hand-balled? So at the time of the incident the ball is going three yards out, but if that ball was allowed to continue it would have curled in the corner. Then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Did ox know it was going wide? Of course not or he wouldn't have done it, the fact is that he knew he was cheating, he knew he was trying to deny a goal, it was a red every day of the week. That's not how it works. The rule doesn't say "intent to deny a goal scoring opportunity." No. It saysdenying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area) Oxlade Chamberlain did what he did because he thought the ball was going in. So in his mind he was denying the opposing team a goal It was deliberate, but it wasn't denying them a goal because the ball was going wide. It doesn't matter that he didn't know that or what he thought. It's not a red. I can understand why the ref gave a red, because it's tough to tell in real time. Yes thats right, it doesn't matter what was in Oxlade Chamberlain's mind, the fact that it wasn't denying a goal or an obvious goalscoring chance is what matters. The ref got it wrong and even if he had of sent the right man off the FA would have still done rescinded the red card 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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