One For The Road Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 If the rules say it's only a red when the ball is heading towards the goal, what you gonna do? But if the Referee had sent Oxlade off, I don't think the FA would have rescinded the red because it turns out it was going wide. But that's exactly what they've done...? I mean if Oxlade had been sent off and there was no question this week of mistaken identities and so the incident wouldn't be under so much scrutiny then I don't think the red card would have been rescinded. No it definitely wouldn't have been. And rightly so, Oxlaide was clearly trying to prevent a goal and the referee was well within his rights to send him off. For a red card to be rescinded the sending off has to have been the completely wrong decision, not just a bit iffy due to interpretation of the law. If the FA had decided Marriner was wrong to send the (right) player off for that then referees would constantly have their decisions changed retrospectiviely by the suits at the FA. On a side note, Arsenal were fortunate not to have Sczcesny sent off on the opening day for pulling Gabby down and conceding a penalty. The reason given then was that as Gabby was not running directly at goal he was not denying him an obvious goalscoring opportunity but that is bollocks, Gabby would have easily got to the ball and put it in had he not been upended. It's all about interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) It was not a red card by the current laws of the game. You guys can think what you want but, according to the rule book ,the ref made a mistake giving a red and Oxlaide would have also had the suspension overturned if the ref had shown him the card. Deliberate hand ball is a yellow card offence, you can't be shown a red card for a hand ball. Illegally denying a goal is a red card offence but no one did that so there should not have been any red card shown. Edited March 25, 2014 by LondonLax 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) I wouldn't be surprised if they changed the rules because of all this. The current system is a bit like saying if you swing a punch at someone it's not a red card unless it connects. Edited March 25, 2014 by The_Rev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 It was not a red card by the current laws of the game. You guys can think what you want but, according to the rule book ,the ref made a mistake giving a red and Oxlaide would have also had the suspension overturned if the ref had shown him the card. Deliberate hand ball is a yellow card offence, you can't be shown a red card for a hand ball. Illegally denying a goal is a red card offence but no one did that so there should not have been any red card shown. I totally disagree. There is no way Arsenal would have appealed had Ox been sent off. Not a chance. And for the card to be overturned there must first be an appeal from the affected club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 25, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted March 25, 2014 If the rules say it's only a red when the ball is heading towards the goal, what you gonna do? But if the Referee had sent Oxlade off, I don't think the FA would have rescinded the red because it turns out it was going wide. But that's exactly what they've done...? I mean if Oxlade had been sent off and there was no question this week of mistaken identities and so the incident wouldn't be under so much scrutiny then I don't think the red card would have been rescinded. Had Arsenal appealed then I think it would have. Because those are the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted March 25, 2014 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2014 It was not a red card by the current laws of the game. You guys can think what you want but, according to the rule book ,the ref made a mistake giving a red and Oxlaide would have also had the suspension overturned if the ref had shown him the card. Deliberate hand ball is a yellow card offence, you can't be shown a red card for a hand ball. Illegally denying a goal is a red card offence but no one did that so there should not have been any red card shown. This. I'm not sure what people are failing to grasp. What the FA has done is correct according to the rules. He didn't prevent a goalscoring opportunity. Therefore it's not a red card. It really really is as simple as that. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) Strange story going around that an ex Arsenal player is fighting for extremists in Syria. Edited April 7, 2014 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrees Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Strange story going around that an ex Arsenal player is fighting for extremists in Syria. I heard that Anelka was struggling with what to do with the time on his hands as well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Man, what the hell has happened to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I think they were always a bit short of being title contenders but the injuries to Walcott and Ramsey in particular have really cost them. Ramsey was arguably the player of Premier League before his injury. Everton have not had European football to contend with and have been luckier with injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Giroud is pretty awful. His record against top 7 opponents is practically non-existent. It was like 1 in 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Giroud is pretty awful. His record against top 7 opponents is practically non-existent. It was like 1 in 14. 13 league goals this season isn't bad. I think he's a good player but had to carry the Arsenal attack all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) Giroud is OK, but if Arsenal want to win the league I think they need a bit better striker. They should of got Higuain. Edited April 7, 2014 by Voinjama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I did post before March that they could lost their top four spot... (Ignore the part where I said spurs were the side that could catch them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I still think Arsenal will get fourth place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I still think Arsenal will get fourth place. I agree, that fixture list is incredibly soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I still think Arsenal will get fourth place. I agree, that fixture list is incredibly soft. and Everton have got to play United and City. Still its in there own hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 They have completely lost momentum, Everton have it in abundance. Can see Arsenal drawing at home to West Ham and away to Hull, they'll win the other 3. Not sure if 11 more points will be enough for 4th. What's the Syria thing about? They did have a Libyan player in the youth team years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) What's the Syria thing about? They did have a Libyan player in the youth team years back. Here:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/arsenal-jihadist-ex-footballer-abu-issa-3376223 I thought it might've been Luís Boa Morte but I've since seen evidence to disprove that theory. Edited April 7, 2014 by Isa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted April 7, 2014 Moderator Share Posted April 7, 2014 What's the Syria thing about? They did have a Libyan player in the youth team years back. Here:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/arsenal-jihadist-ex-footballer-abu-issa-3376223 I thought it might've been Luís Boa Morte but I've since seen evidence to disprove that theory. Looks like Lassana Diarra to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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