choffer Posted October 26, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted October 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Spurs can finish between 2nd and 4th as much as they like and have some impressive league and CL performances like Real Madrid, but if you dont win anything whats the point? Even we have been to more FA cup finals than they have over the last few years But we didn't win any so what's the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 51 minutes ago, choffer said: But we didn't win any so what's the point? Imagine we had the spending power of spurs? we may have done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 3 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Imagine we had the spending power of spurs? we may have done We had 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted October 26, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted October 26, 2017 Yes the better question would be imagine we had a manager like Poch instead of Mon. Poch is the one that will be poached before long and the exodus will follow if they don't win things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Winning things is good but the league cup is worthless now. Might as well scrap it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Xela said: Winning things is good but the league cup is worthless now. Might as well scrap it. Its good for the clubs that cant finish top 4 but its an unnecessary distraction for the likes of Man City and Spurs. Still Mourinho loves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Xela said: Winning things is good but the league cup is worthless now. Might as well scrap it. Totally disagree. That would be another nail in the coffin for football and just bowing down to the big clubs, because we all know the bigger clubs would rather it be scrapped. Edited October 26, 2017 by Rugeley Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheAuthority Posted October 26, 2017 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) Should bring back the Cup-Winners cup, and scrap the "Champions" League and Europa league and turn them both back into straight ahead, knock out competitions. Champions League should be the European cup involving just the league winners not the top 3/4 depending on co-efficients blah blah bollocks. (Yes I am getting old and I preferred things the way they were when they made sense.) Edited October 26, 2017 by TheAuthority Grammar 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 8 hours ago, TheAuthority said: Should bring back the Cup-Winners cup, and scrap the "Champions" League and Europa league and turn them both back into straight ahead, knock out competitions. Champions League should be the European cup involving just the league winners not the top 3/4 depending on co-efficients blah blah bollocks. (Yes I am getting old and I preferred things the way they were when they made sense.) I agree. The days where you could draw any team with straight knock outs was the best. All this separating team bollocks has what's made it so shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Demitri_C said: I agree. The days where you could draw any team with straight knock outs was the best. All this separating team bollocks has made UEFA tons of **** money, given the big boys a chance to play money spinning dead rubbers and given eastern european nobodies 6 games a season vs the bigger boys its not going to change, if anything it'll probably expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 16:55, TheAuthority said: Playing devil's advocate, I find it hard to hold Kane to that standard because sadly he is playing in a shite team with a dour manager who has never done anything in club football. The '96 team had McMannaman, Gascoigne etc. and El Tel knew what he was doing. Likewise Owen was part of a really good team in '98. The team Lineker played in was managed by Bobby Robson and he had Beardsley, Waddle, Barnes, Hoddle & and an emerging Gascoigne playing with him. (Great memories.) True but for England he's playing with half his team mates. Ali, Danny Rose, potentially Winks in the next year and he played with Kyle Walker for years aswell so if those combinations can get him goals for his club it shouldn't be impossible for the same to happen with England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Spurs need to win stuff to keep their squad together. There's only so long you can keep playing the we're ambitious card. We saw what happened here, Barry and Young gave about 15 years service between them and we still didn't win anything and they went off and within 1-2 years were winning multiple trophies with their new clubs. Kane, Ali, Vertonghen, Alderwield and Lloris could all be earning much more elsewhere but clearly they like playing for Pochettino and the Spurs project but only so long that viewpoint will last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Poch should really be aiming higher than spurs. He could get a job at real or barce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 15 hours ago, TheAuthority said: Should bring back the Cup-Winners cup, and scrap the "Champions" League and Europa league and turn them both back into straight ahead, knock out competitions. Champions League should be the European cup involving just the league winners not the top 3/4 depending on co-efficients blah blah bollocks. (Yes I am getting old and I preferred things the way they were when they made sense.) That's never going to happen though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 2 hours ago, VillaChris said: Spurs need to win stuff to keep their squad together. There's only so long you can keep playing the we're ambitious card. We saw what happened here, Barry and Young gave about 15 years service between them and we still didn't win anything and they went off and within 1-2 years were winning multiple trophies with their new clubs. Kane, Ali, Vertonghen, Alderwield and Lloris could all be earning much more elsewhere but clearly they like playing for Pochettino and the Spurs project but only so long that viewpoint will last. Winning the league cup wont keep them together. they need a league title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted October 27, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2017 5 hours ago, VillaChris said: True but for England he's playing with half his team mates. Ali, Danny Rose, potentially Winks in the next year and he played with Kyle Walker for years aswell so if those combinations can get him goals for his club it shouldn't be impossible for the same to happen with England. Fair point - however playing for Poch over Southgate is kinda like having steak, egg & chips for dinner or some old, limp, wilted spinach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted October 27, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2017 9 hours ago, Demitri_C said: I agree. The days where you could draw any team with straight knock outs was the best. All this separating team bollocks has what's made it so shit Also if you bring back the cup-winners cup, it makes the league cup something worth playing for. Make it a straight knock out competition with no seeding and the fans would love it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 20 hours ago, Rugeley Villa said: Totally disagree. That would be another nail in the coffin for football and just bowing down to the big clubs, because we all know the bigger clubs would rather it be scrapped. The nails are already in the coffin. That happened when finishing 4th in the league became the sole aim of teams, rather than actually winning things. Lap of honours for finishing 4th. Shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 2 hours ago, TheAuthority said: Also if you bring back the cup-winners cup, it makes the league cup something worth playing for. Make it a straight knock out competition with no seeding and the fans would love it. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 One man team, without Kane top 4 would be an immense struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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