MagicMushroom Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Just throwing it out there - but my Man U supporting friend reckons this is a smoke screen for A Youngs return to villa. I'm smelling utter cack, but there you go. How does that work, then? No disrespect to your mate, but when it comes to Football, Manure fans only spout utter shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge-AVFC Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Same reasons that the other 'no' voters gave. The manner (and destination) of his departure. I said at the time I hoped his career would crash and burn, and I feel no different now.o y So you'd rather our team not see the benefit of a very good player, because he left us after 12 years at the club? At the end of the day surely Villa is in your best interest, so wouldn't you rather put aside your issues with a former player leaving, if it means it benefits Villa now? Also, to be fair on Barry he called the destination right in the long run didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMushroom Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) Same reasons that the other 'no' voters gave. The manner (and destination) of his departure. I said at the time I hoped his career would crash and burn, and I feel no different now. So, if you were in his shoes you would of turned down the chance of increasing your wage and winning something. You would have remained at Villa and watched your career go down the pan? Tell me. Would you stay in your current job if someone offered you 3 times your current wage and to play a part in a much bigger and successful organisation? Why is it this different for Footballers? Edited June 24, 2013 by MagicMushroom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Oh I dunno, I'm undecided. I feel that experience in the middle would help us a lot. But if we're going to bring in an experienced player I think he needs to be better than Barry to justify not playing any of the younger players instead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 24, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted June 24, 2013 Same reasons that the other 'no' voters gave. The manner (and destination) of his departure. I said at the time I hoped his career would crash and burn, and I feel no different now. So, if you were in his shoes you would of turned down the chance of increasing your wage and winning something. You would have remained at Villa and watched your career go down the pan? Tell me. Would you stay in your current job if someone offered you 3 times your current wage and to play a part in a much bigger and successful organisation? Why is it this different for Footballers? I'm not him. I'm a football fan, driven by emotions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I can see all sorts of reasons why this would be a good idea, and if I were manager then I'd be very interested in bringing Gareth back. I have no complaints about his departure, he has since been fully vindicated in his decision to leave Villa. However, last season Lambert felt we didn't need the extra experience, and a year further down the line players like Lowton, Westwood etc will have all had a season of playing in the top flight. Ergo we will have a more experienced team than last year, so there's no real reason to suggest that Lambert will suddenly change his policy and go for an older player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 If Benteke leaves, goes to Madrid, becomes the best player in the world and a few years down the line wanted to return. Would the people who don't want Barry back because he left also turn down Benteke in my made up scenario? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Condimentalist Posted June 24, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2013 I wonder if he didn't have a Villa history whether people would be keen on us signing 32 year-old from Man City on high wages who has visibly started fading... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 (and destination) I don't get this one bit. Where should he have gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMushroom Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Same reasons that the other 'no' voters gave. The manner (and destination) of his departure. I said at the time I hoped his career would crash and burn, and I feel no different now. So, if you were in his shoes you would of turned down the chance of increasing your wage and winning something. You would have remained at Villa and watched your career go down the pan? Tell me. Would you stay in your current job if someone offered you 3 times your current wage and to play a part in a much bigger and successful organisation? Why is it this different for Footballers? I'm not him. I'm a football fan, driven by emotions. HAHA, top answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 24, 2013 Moderator Share Posted June 24, 2013 The question of whether I'd want him back depends entirely on the financials surrounding the deal. Would I like to have him back and in the squad, giving advice to youngsters and adding experience to midfield? Yes. Would I like it to cost us a fortune in combined transfer & wages? No I wouldn't. So he'd have to come back on our terms. I wouldn't begrudge him his time at Citeh. He went away and won a league title after giving us a decade of his career. He was vindicated in moving and if he wanted to come back under our terms then I've no problem with that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 If this did happen (and I mean Barry taking a huge wage cut), then the 1 or 2 years he could give us, would really steady our young, developing team. He has the quality and also would be able to lead the youngsters around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I voted no. But if he were to take a massive, and I mean MASSIVE wage cut (say, 80k per week, which means we pay him 20k per week) I wouldn't be against it. Signing him up on wages substantially more than that would mean us landing in the same situation we found ourselves in with Dunne, Ireland, Bent etc, in 2 or 3 years' time maximum. And while it isn't smoking gun evidence of his decline, I think we should be wary of signing someone whom City seem eager to flog - they wouldn't do that if they thought he was good enough for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Can't believe this is a question tbh... 110% yes. Can't believe this is a question either. 100% no. That looks like a balance of 10% yes, then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I think the reality some people are missing is that Barry may well no longer be good enough for Man C but would still be more than good enough for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 24, 2013 Moderator Share Posted June 24, 2013 I think those who don't want him are a combination of not wanting to pay what he'd want and those who don't like how he left. I can't imagine there are too many who wouldn't accept that he could add something to our midfield roster or that maybe he'd waltz into our starting midfield at the moment - although maybe not in a years time ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 All about wages for me. If he's prepared to take a huge cut go ahead if not then no. As much as I loved him here, he's obviously only going to get worse as he gets older, granted he could be like a Pirlo for us but I don't see it. I'd rather Lambert scout an unknown gem from somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Who would you leave out to accommodate him BOF? I wouldn't want him back because he is on the decline and we need to get away from that transfer policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 24, 2013 Moderator Share Posted June 24, 2013 He could play while Delph sits out his suspensions and injuries, or if we need to go 442 in certain situations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 He could play while Delph sits out his suspensions and injuries, or if we need to go 442 in certain situations He plays a similar game now to Westwood. You'd lose a lot from dropping Delph and playing those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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