djdabush Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 I thought Howe's comments after the.game were a bit odd. Clearly he's done a great job this season but can you imagine Emery saying that we would do the analysis of the game and then move on very quickly if we got smashed like that? Every team they will play from now to the end of the season will be taking that performance and using it as a blueprint of how to beat them. If I was Howe I would be spending an awful lot of time going through that and making sure they can make the necessary adaptations. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 This is the thing. They aren't all that. I think teams are just respecting them way too much when they play them. There is no way they are top 4 standard so it's absurd they are up there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenfly Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 9 hours ago, gwi1890 said: I saw a lot of Newcastle fans before the game talking about how we don't do our research before giving opinions on them, but they do the exact same thing. Watkins was already bang in form going into the game, of course he'd be a threat. As for Mings, anyone who actually "did their research" rather than jumping on a bandwagon would know he's far, far better than he's perceived to be. All fans should agree to stop trying to seriously analyse a club they pay no attention to, because you're just seeing yourself up for embarrassment that way. Or they could just carry on and I can keep laughing at them, either works for me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkiller1981 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 12 hours ago, PieFacE said: Gordon continues to look like a strange signing. Yep £40+ million and I’ve yet to see what even makes him a premier league player! He really does look poor and I thought that when he was at Everton. If we had been in the mix to sign him I would have been fuming. Add to that he seems to have a toxic attitude which only brings clubs down and it’s based on zero delivery anywhere in his career so far, the lads hardly messi is he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 29 minutes ago, punkiller1981 said: Yep £40+ million and I’ve yet to see what even makes him a premier league player! He really does look poor and I thought that when he was at Everton. If we had been in the mix to sign him I would have been fuming. Add to that he seems to have a toxic attitude which only brings clubs down and it’s based on zero delivery anywhere in his career so far, the lads hardly messi is he Eddie Howe loves a young player moving over from Liverpool for several times their worth. Definitely not a Dan Ashworth signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post a-k Posted April 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2023 Went for a Sunday morning browse on some of their forums...one suggested they offer us cash + Wilson for Ollie 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 12 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: They are probably the most 'shithousey' team in the league, and we outdid them in that department massively. Them complaining about the ref whilst on 14 fouls 1 yellow at HT is amusing. It was 14 fouls in the game, not 14 fouls by Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) I thought they were moaning at the ref because of 2 hand ball shouts, 1 was the Ramsey misjudged header that hit his shoulder, the 2nd one I'm not sure BT even replayed, neither were reviewed by VAR Them chanting you're not fit to referee was hilarious Edit - the first one was a slide tackle down in the corner right in front of their fans where the villa player won the ball and then it hit his trailing arm, so not reviewable by VAR and then also I think by the rules because he played it own to his own arm it's not a handball anyway and the handball when it's a trailling arm on a slide tackle is largely bullshit anyway Edited April 16, 2023 by villa4europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Pinebro said: This is the thing. They aren't all that. I think teams are just respecting them way too much when they play them. There is no way they are top 4 standard so it's absurd they are up there. Agree they're not all that but think most weeks they're the team that are brimming with confidence and full of beans Yesterday we out-everything-ed them, next week vs spurs I'd expect that to be the other way round, Newcastle won't even have to be 100% on it to still be more on it than spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 2 hours ago, villa4europe said: Them chanting you're not fit to referee was hilarious They were chanting? From the Holte it seemed as if they were some of the worst fans this season. Think we heard them once, around 60 min mark where they had a shot. As for the team, they were quite possibly one of the dirtiest I’ve seen. The midfield pairing were constantly making fouls (not always given), and the fullbacks were all over our players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 If they get champions league football the team and brand of football they play has Simeone written all over it. Wether they would be able to tempt him is another thing of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: If they get champions league football the team and brand of football they play has Simeone written all over it. Wether they would be able to tempt him is another thing of course. None of the other much bigger sides have managed so I’m not sure Newcastle will draw him in. He’s on something ridiculous like €30m a season already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Genie said: None of the other much bigger sides have managed so I’m not sure Newcastle will draw him in. He’s on something ridiculous like €30m a season already. Talk he's finally leaving Atletico in the summer. I think he'll just go and manage in Serie A, Inter Milan seems a good fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Genie said: None of the other much bigger sides have managed so I’m not sure Newcastle will draw him in. He’s on something ridiculous like €30m a season already. He’s taken a 10m pay cut until end of the season then he’s off , Atletico are in serious financial trouble and probably the only reason he’s leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 3 hours ago, villa4europe said: I thought they were moaning at the ref because of 2 hand ball shouts, 1 was the Ramsey misjudged header that hit his shoulder, the 2nd one I'm not sure BT even replayed, neither were reviewed by VAR Them chanting you're not fit to referee was hilarious Edit - the first one was a slide tackle down in the corner right in front of their fans where the villa player won the ball and then it hit his trailing arm, so not reviewable by VAR and then also I think by the rules because he played it own to his own arm it's not a handball anyway and the handball when it's a trailling arm on a slide tackle is largely bullshit anyway They seem to be unhappy with the ref because he gave some soft free kicks to us - which he did, to be fair. He didn’t give us anything with Guimaraes fouling Ramsey and Burn hacking Buendia from behind in the first 15 mins or so, so I’m not massively surprised the way the game panned out. They’re a physical side. So much of their press is about being aggressive - we passed through it time and time again and it destroyed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 10 hours ago, djdabush said: I thought Howe's comments after the.game were a bit odd. Clearly he's done a great job this season but can you imagine Emery saying that we would do the analysis of the game and then move on very quickly if we got smashed like that? Every team they will play from now to the end of the season will be taking that performance and using it as a blueprint of how to beat them. If I was Howe I would be spending an awful lot of time going through that and making sure they can make the necessary adaptations. If we got beat like that under Emery he'd probably be up for 72 hours straight watching videos of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Mantis said: If we got beat like that under Emery he'd probably be up for 72 hours straight watching videos of it. No doubt so will Howe, the comment of "move on" is no doubt aimed at the media who will now try and manufacture pressure on them not to bottle it Will be interesting to see if they do just that, hopefully they hammer him all week still They're a club leaning heavily of confidence imo focus on that performance and digging everyone out is the worst thing that could happen to them Edited April 16, 2023 by villa4europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 26 minutes ago, villa4europe said: No doubt so will Howe, the comment of "move on" is no doubt aimed at the media who will now try and manufacture pressure on them not to bottle it Will be interesting to see if they do just that, hopefully they hammer him all week still They're a club leaning heavily of confidence imo focus on that performance and digging everyone out is the worst thing that could happen to them I’d still expect them to beat Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Really hope some of Everton, Southampton Leeds and Leicester can lift their games against them, we really could catch them if they collapse. Arsenal should beat them, Spurs and Chelsea are both a shambles but capable of the odd good performance still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Cant see how newcastle will spend big in summer they have spent massive amounts already Even if they do id trust emery more with a big budget than howe who made some awful signings at Bournemouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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