Demitri_C Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, Czechlad said: 32 goals scored and only 12 conceded. Averaging over 2 goals a match and less than one conceded. Clark must be pretty happy he was sold. He will be back in the premier league next season. He also is playing well for them. I really hope they play him week in and week out in premier league then they will really see how shite he is. this is his level just like baker. bakers been immense in championship but doenst look great in PL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 They've had a decent run of form Newcastle but my monies on Brighton to win the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 2 hours ago, Tommo_b said: They've had a decent run of form Newcastle but my monies on Brighton to win the league. If your willing to lose your money can I have it instead? I promise I will use it wisely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 On 27/10/2016 at 11:22, Demitri_C said: ritchie and gayle have been the difference for them. it would be interesting to how they did if both were injured at same time. I'm sure Ciaran can sort that out in training! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) Jonjo Shelvey could be getting a 5 game ban for racist comments. Would be a big miss from their team Edited November 8, 2016 by mikeyp102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 19 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Jonjo Shelvey could be getting a 5 game ban for racist comments. Would be a big miss from their team Could affect his form as well for rest of season. What a idiot he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Why has it took 2 months for it to get to the FA? no defence of him he is an idiot if its true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted November 8, 2016 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2016 28 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Jonjo Shelvey could be getting a 5 game ban for racist comments. Would be a big miss from their team Is he abusing muggles again? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 On 31/10/2016 at 14:52, Demitri_C said: I really hope they play him week in and week out in premier league then they will really see how shite he is. this is his level just like baker. bakers been immense in championship but doenst look great in PL Newcastle have lost 3 games this season - Ciaran Clark played in none of them. However, he has played in 11 games this season, for the full 90 minutes. His record is 10 wins, 1 draw. "Shite". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 11, 2016 Moderator Share Posted November 11, 2016 9 minutes ago, bobzy said: Newcastle have lost 3 games this season - Ciaran Clark played in none of them. However, he has played in 11 games this season, for the full 90 minutes. His record is 10 wins, 1 draw. "Shite". That's poor footballing logic though. It's akin to saying you can't pick up a good player from a relegated side because hey they got relegated. Not every player in a top team is good and not every player in a bottom team is poor. We've seen 7 years of Ciaran Clark so we know what he's like. 10 games as a barcode doesn't change that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 7 minutes ago, BOF said: That's poor footballing logic though. It's akin to saying you can't pick up a good player from a relegated side because hey they got relegated. Not every player in a top team is good and not every player in a bottom team is poor. We've seen 7 years of Ciaran Clark so we know what he's like. 10 games as a barcode doesn't change that. Isn't it saying the opposite to that? He is a decent player from a relegated side that has helped make Newcastle's defence solid. The poor footballing logic would be to say that he's bad because he's in a side that got relegated. FWIW, I always rated him higher than most here so perhaps biased I thought his spells as captain here were good and he was our most solid centre back over the past 5 or so season. I think I said elsewhere, I'd have rather kept Clark than basically spent £4m + Clark on James Chester. Each to their own! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Vlaar was far and away our most solid centre back. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 11, 2016 Moderator Share Posted November 11, 2016 1 minute ago, bobzy said: The poor footballing logic would be to say that he's bad because he's in a side that got relegated. Yes it would be poor logic if someone was trying to suggest he was bad solely because he was part of a relegated side, but no-one is saying that. I'm saying he's poor because he has been poor for 7 seasons even when Villa weren't doing terribly. I took from your post that you were suggesting 10 wins and a draw automatically meant he was good. Maybe I misunderstood. To me he's the same player he always was. He's just playing in a side who are currently over-matched in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 11, 2016 Moderator Share Posted November 11, 2016 Anyway, I just came in here to say the annoying thing about them isn't even that they're winning. It's that they're usually winning by about 3 minutes. Honestly, the amount of times I've checked the scores at about 15:04 on a Saturday and the only goal scored has been Newcastle's I think they're sailing towards triple figures and Gayle is sailing towards whatever the Chumpionship's equivalent of the golden boot is, as a few of us suspected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 7 minutes ago, BOF said: Yes it would be poor logic if someone was trying to suggest he was bad solely because he was part of a relegated side, but no-one is saying that. I'm saying he's poor because he has been poor for 7 seasons even when Villa weren't doing terribly. I took from your post that you were suggesting 10 wins and a draw automatically meant he was good. Maybe I misunderstood. To me he's the same player he always was. He's just playing in a side who are currently over-matched in the division. Well, my post implies that he's part of their improved defence - which I think he is, as they have missed him when he hasn't played (3 losses etc). Further, I don't think he was poor for 7 seasons for us. He's a decent defender and Newcastle have made a shrewd signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 11, 2016 Moderator Share Posted November 11, 2016 Just now, bobzy said: Well, my post implies that he's part of their improved defence - which I think he is, as they have missed him when he hasn't played (3 losses etc). Further, I don't think he was poor for 7 seasons for us. He's a decent defender and Newcastle have made a shrewd signing. They're doing well with him in the side. We will agree to disagree on how good he is. IMO improving THAT Newcastle defence doesn't make you good, it just makes you better than what was there before you. He seems to fit them, so I think everyone won in this deal, including us btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 1 hour ago, bobzy said: Newcastle have lost 3 games this season - Ciaran Clark played in none of them. However, he has played in 11 games this season, for the full 90 minutes. His record is 10 wins, 1 draw. "Shite". Baker has looked just as good at this level in my opinion. Fact is this level is quite poor as shown. Once Newcastle get promoted if they rely on Ciaran Clark as their first choice centre back they will be back down here again. The guy is absolutely hopeless on the top level in this country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 49 minutes ago, BOF said: Yes it would be poor logic if someone was trying to suggest he was bad solely because he was part of a relegated side, but no-one is saying that. I'm saying he's poor because he has been poor for 7 seasons even when Villa weren't doing terribly. I took from your post that you were suggesting 10 wins and a draw automatically meant he was good. Maybe I misunderstood. To me he's the same player he always was. He's just playing in a side who are currently over-matched in the division. Thats exactly as how I saw his post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigy1874 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 I went to Newcastle v Ipswich recently as my bro is a fan. It pained me but Ciaran Clark strolled through the game, didn't put a foot wrong. Was vocal, commanding and very very good. I think the move has done him wonders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 4 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Vlaar was far and away our most solid centre back. A good player he was, solid he wasn't. The guy could injure himself on a frickin bouncy castle surrounded by feather pillows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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