LondonVillian Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Defo should still be at right back with tonev in front of him No tonnev should be in the reserves at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 We bought Bacuna for a fee didnt we ? Just on f365 they state 'Bargain of the season? A free transfer certainly gets you plenty these days'. Thought we paid about a mil for him? Mind you they often make mistakes on that website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Only managed the highlights this week, and I've only just watched them. There was an awful lot of adverse comment about his performance in the match thread, which doesn't seem to be justified at all by what I saw. Thought he had a good game all through, and of course a free kick to die for. Bacuna was one of our most standout players for me, if not the most. Definite MOM. Even before he did that free kick. He is solid and pacey in defence, so he never got caught out, and he did well going forwards. I think the match thread is the worst place to judge a football match. The angst on there is hilarious. The Man City match thread contains the now-legendary "Bacuna is not a footballer". I think in some ways Bacuna could be our new Ashley Young: underwhelming at times, but likely to provide a spark occasionally that changes a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heid3ster Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 he should be taking all the corners. I dont know why PL persists with Westwood or Tonev I don't remember Tonev taking a corner in a competitive game this season? He took at least one vs. Cardiff on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Already a great signing. At that price it's impressive to even get a decent squad utility player, someone who can take a great set piece (or at least free kick) and looks more than competent from open play is just icing on the cake at that price. Very sweet icing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I reckon Bacuna and Lowton on the right would be a cracking combo. Each is capable of doing the others job so the opportunity (once they've developed an understanding) for either to get forward and cross would prove prove very effective, rather like Graydon and Gidman (for the more mature VTer). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I think in some ways Bacuna could be our new Ashley Young: underwhelming at times, but likely to provide a spark occasionally that changes a game. James Milner would be a better comparison. Watch this near-identical goal (like Bacuna's against Cardiff) - http://www.soccerclips.net/videos/aston-villa-2-3-everton-milner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 he should be taking all the corners. I dont know why PL persists with Westwood or Tonev I don't remember Tonev taking a corner in a competitive game this season? yeah i think i saw him take a few against Cardiff. They werent bad.. but when Bacuna can place the ball wherever he wants.. its a bit of a no brainer for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raver50032 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Fabulous free kick Leandro... again... I take my hat off to you... Keep up your good work, wherever you play for us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I don't think he plays best at RB I think that's just the position he's been in once he'd got used to the Prem. playing him in midfield will make better use of his stamina and vision. I think I would play him on the right side of a 4-4-2 ahead of Lowton, or the right side of midfield 4-3-2-1 with Westwood in the centre and Delph on the left, gabby tekkers and andi in front. other option is to stick him in the attacking part of a midfield diamond. I don't think Lambert sees him or wants him at RB long-term. he was given the #7 shirt and I think that has more significance than has been mentooned. in fact I don't think it's been mentioned at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted November 12, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 12, 2013 he should be taking all the corners. I dont know why PL persists with Westwood or Tonev I don't remember Tonev taking a corner in a competitive game this season? yeah i think i saw him take a few against Cardiff. They werent bad.. but when Bacuna can place the ball wherever he wants.. its a bit of a no brainer for me I think Westwood took them all to be honest. I can't remember Tonev taking one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwan Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 (edited) I think Bacuna will really flourish when he's moved farther forward. It's not that he's wasted at RB, but I think he has far more to offer going forward. His crosses are usually on point, great set piece taker, shown a little bit of skill and pace, strong on the ball. Looking like another great buy. Edited November 12, 2013 by Kwan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Should also take our corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruff Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I think Bacuna will really flourish when he's moved farther forward. It's not that he's wasted at RB, but I think he has far more to offer going forward. His crosses are usually on point, great set piece taker, shown a little bit of skill and pace, strong on the ball. Looking like another great buy. What's impressed me most about him(except his freekicks) is that he never seem to get beaten. He looks like winning every 1 on 1 challenge as a defending player. Correct me if I'm wrong here though. I just feel very safe with him at RB. It's also the possision where he stepped up his game. To me he looked a bit lost in midfield, but this was the early days though and it might have changed by now. Him being pushed further up the pitch changing the game against cardiff might be evident of that. I also feel that Lowton is more creative and technically gifted so Lowton being pushed further up the pitch might be more of a threath. Them combining and overlapping migth turn out to be very dangerous going forward no matter which of them plays at Rb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssexVilla Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I think Bacuna will really flourish when he's moved farther forward. It's not that he's wasted at RB, but I think he has far more to offer going forward. His crosses are usually on point, great set piece taker, shown a little bit of skill and pace, strong on the ball. Looking like another great buy. What's impressed me most about him(except his freekicks) is that he never seem to get beaten. He looks like winning every 1 on 1 challenge as a defending player. Correct me if I'm wrong here though. I just feel very safe with him at RB. It's also the possision where he stepped up his game. To me he looked a bit lost in midfield, but this was the early days though and it might have changed by now. Him being pushed further up the pitch changing the game against cardiff might be evident of that. I also feel that Lowton is more creative and technically gifted so Lowton being pushed further up the pitch might be more of a threath. Them combining and overlapping migth turn out to be very dangerous going forward no matter which of them plays at Rb. Not sure I agree with your assessment that Lowton is more creative and technically gifted. Only time I can remember I defense splitting pass in the league this season was bacuna slipping one in for el-ahmadi's goal against city. Also, think Bacuna has been shown to have excellent technical ability with his crossing, freekicks and I seem to remember him scoring a goal in pre-season where he cut in on his left and stuck it top corner. Only technically proficient part of Lowtons game where he stands out as being good is his crossing which i think he does better from a deeper position so would be more suited to doing so from right back. I wouldn't mind seeing Bacuna further forward either as right hand side of 4-4-2 or right hand side of central trio of 4-3-3 when gabby and weimann are back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 He looked a fish out of water playing right midfield against Liverpool but he certainly deserves another go playing there particularly as it seems Gabby will be out for a few more weeks yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 He looked a fish out of water playing right midfield against Liverpool but he certainly deserves another go playing there particularly as it seems Gabby will be out for a few more weeks yet. Don't even think it needs to be RM, I'd like to see him in the midfield trio when Delph is out, as he offers us something different. As he has a bit of drive to get forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 We may see this at West Brom if Delph isn't fit. Bacuna........Westwood.......Sylla Weimann.........Benteke.....Tonev/Kozak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 (edited) I'd go with this if Delph / luna are back, but Andi and gabby dont make it. ..........................Guzan.......................... ..............Vlaar.....Clark.....Baker............. Lowton...........................................Luna ......................Westwood....................... ............Bacuna...........Delph................... ...........Benteke.............Kozak................ Like to see the Bacuna Lowton combo Edited November 13, 2013 by villan_007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adw95 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 he should be taking all the corners. I dont know why PL persists with Westwood or Tonev I don't remember Tonev taking a corner in a competitive game this season? yeah i think i saw him take a few against Cardiff. They werent bad.. but when Bacuna can place the ball wherever he wants.. its a bit of a no brainer for me I was sure Westwood took them all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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