Bunnski Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 The only time he looked anyway decent was when he was switched onto the left wing vs Cardiff. He beat his man a few times and put in some really good crosses one of which led to our second goal. Hopefully he can improve over the second half of the season . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshVilla Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 To be fair to him, against Sheffield, he was one of the few players to me who looked like he cared and wanted to make something happen. He made some great runs and often didn't get picked out, so he'd run into some space, not receive a pass, and then vanish again. Obviously, we can wonder why he didn't get a pass, and I'm sure we can think of a few reasons, but at least he's getting himself into some decent areas and thinking positively. It goes without saying if a player isn't performing to a level that we'd expect then they'll be criticized. That's how it works, not just in football, but in anything in life; if someone doesn't perform, then people will notice. Saying that, I do think that he has some attributes that could well be very useful. He's rather pacey IMO, and I've seen him deliver some pretty nice crosses. He's a young lad in a new country, thrown into one of the toughest leagues in the world, so there must be a pretty hefty amount of pressure there, especially when brought into a team that have just survived a relegation battle. I've been as frustrated as most people with Tonev, especially when it comes to being wasteful when produced with a good opportunity to either score or create something, but I think that, given time and coaching (if we have faith in our coaches), we can iron out some of the creases and produce a decent player. He's not going to be world class, and I don't imagine that we'll turn him into a nailed on starter week in, week out, but he can still be another option, especially if he cuts out unnecessary shooting and bursts down the wings on the counter and puts some crosses in. It's frustrating when we sign a player and really expect that he'll help us push on and we end up disappointed, but hopefully he'll get more comfortable, work hard in training and continue to develop. Maybe a loan could help to ease some pressure. I'm not saying that because it's his first season he shouldn't be criticized, I just think (hope!) that he's not the finished article and could still become a pretty useful player for us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayshanne Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 To be fair to him, against Sheffield, he was one of the few players to me who looked like he cared and wanted to make something happen. He made some great runs and often didn't get picked out, so he'd run into some space, not receive a pass, and then vanish again. Obviously, we can wonder why he didn't get a pass, and I'm sure we can think of a few reasons, but at least he's getting himself into some decent areas and thinking positively. Exactly my impression when we played Swansea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lp_villa830 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Looks to have the physical attributes and desire to be a PL player just sadly lacks the brain or technique of one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 His decisions are horrible, if he could sort that h'e probably be a useful squad player, as it is now hes just not even league one standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 He's just very over eager that's all, he definitely has technique but the eagerness and nervousness he is showing is halting him settle and progress. Yet even as shit as he's been, which I think he has been labelled so due to some wild shooting, he has still managed to create a number of goal scoring chances for us and arguably been unlucky not to score through good saves. He needs a run in the team which includes not getting hauled off just as he was starting to do ok like against Sheffield. No way should Weimann stayed on that pitch over him, Tonev was easily one of our better players, unfortunately my argument isn't aided by how shit everyone else was. I have faith. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsworthlion Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I cant believe this thread has gone 105 pages and people are still debating if he is shit or not.. lock it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted January 10, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2014 No they're not. It's obvious he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I don't there is any debate whether he is shit or not anymore. He quite clearly is League 1 standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AshVilla Posted January 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2014 He just needs to go atomic once to get the fans back on side 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Petrov took a lot of shit his first season too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeroGabe Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I want tonev improve us wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I want tonev improve us wrong I want Randly Lerner, Paul Lambert, and all the players to prove us wrong! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 It's on him to prove us wrong, thus far he has shown zero ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icouldtelltheworld Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I still think Tonev could come good; he obviously has a bit of natural ability and with the right combination of hard work and luck he could become a very good player for us IMO. He's one of our only players that can beat his man and has a decent enough cross on him when played out wide. I think he has really struggled with communication on the pitch, it's one thing learning a language to speak but it would be another altogether trying to communicate with people barking orders at you in a high-stress environment like during a PL game. I remember in the Cardiff game someone went to take a throw in, and there was quite a bit of dialogue between the player taking the throw and Tonev, and Tonev didn't seem to really understand what was being said to him as he first ran away and then came back to receive the throw. Give the lad time and try not to scapegoat him. You can already hear the groans whenever he gets the ball at Villa Park which is not going to help him one bit. You could also say he's been unlucky to score because he's hit a few powerful shots on target that you can see the goal keeper taken back by. If one of them flies into the net I reckon he'd start playing with a bit of confidence and stop trying so hard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 An absolute shoe-in for the worst Villa Premier League XI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myko Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 An absolute shoe-in for the worst Villa Premier League XI. From this squad, Bowery, Hutton and Sylla would all be in contention for me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 He can only get better.. right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 An absolute shoe-in for the worst Villa Premier League XI. their was a lot worse midfielders than Tonev. without thinking too much Salifou, Kinsella, Osbourne, Agathe would all be ahead of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Could do no worse than Benteke, Weimann, and certainly Sylla off the bench at the minute. He can control the football, too many in the team can't right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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