Brumerican Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 21 hours ago, villakram said: Btw, the Russian nonsense has been thoroughly investigated and debunked. This ain't Parler dude. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Brumerican said: This ain't Parler dude. So, the Biden stuff before the election was all due to Russia too, oh errrr, except the federal investigation he has been under that he has confirmed. Parler et al., exist due to the increasing amounts of censorship taking place in society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 @Awol Geopolitically, this is A Bad Thing, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brumerican Posted December 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2020 Just now, villakram said: So, the Biden stuff before the election was all due to Russia too, oh errrr, except the federal investigation he has been under that he has confirmed. Parler et al., exist due to the increasing amounts of censorship taking place in society. I don't doubt for a second the Dems are dirty too but to pretend there was no Russian interference in Trump's campaign is pathetic. A lot of it came out of his own mouth on TV FFS. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) What about Biden shilling can stop now, the election is done. Edited December 10, 2020 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted December 10, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2020 Greenwald is just bitter he didn't rise to fame after his Snowden scoop for the Guardian. He comes across as quite unhinged a lot of the time and even more so since he was forced out of the Intercept (which he founded) for being, well, unhinged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 23 minutes ago, ml1dch said: @Awol Geopolitically, this is A Bad Thing, right? And in what I'm sure is totally unrelated news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 38 minutes ago, ml1dch said: @Awol Geopolitically, this is A Bad Thing, right? Honestly don’t know much about it, other than it being a bit of a no-mans-land with various insurgencies to gain formal independence since Spanish decolonization. It might not be a terrible thing to have a major state establish governance over the territory, and better Morocco than Mauritania. No-one can say he’s not going the extra mile for the Israelis, KSA and UAE, though. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Brumerican said: I don't doubt for a second the Dems are dirty too but to pretend there was no Russian interference in Trump's campaign is pathetic. A lot of it came out of his own mouth on TV FFS. Interference. Like the Chinese/Israelis/Indians/Germans/Irish/Saudis, oh those down right dastardly Russians. I thought the charge was that Trump was collaborating with or working for those nasty Russians. Chatting on TV/internet like he did is not illegal, distasteful maybe (and various other forms of non patriotic and immoral things depending on your viewpoint), but not illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Awol said: Honestly don’t know much about it, other than it being a bit of a no-mans-land with various insurgencies to gain formal independence since Spanish decolonization. It might not be a terrible thing to have a major state establish governance over the territory, and better Morocco than Mauritania. No-one can say he’s not going the extra mile for the Israelis, KSA and UAE, though. Dictator Sisi in France getting full best buddy treatment too. The lecture about the value of religion over all else being a highlight. At least Macron had the spine to say it ain't so, if after the event. Bidens (in)actions will be very interesting as he's close to being boxed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 2 hours ago, villakram said: Parler et al., exist due to the increasing amounts of censorship taking place in society. Really? Care to throw out an example or two? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Parler exists because right wingers conflate freedom of speech with a private company (a la twitter) having a choice of what is displayed on their website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXD Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 23 hours ago, villakram said: along with Feinstein's China issue, it paints an interesting picture of the Californian congressional delegation, no? Btw, the Russian nonsense has been thoroughly investigated and debunked. Mueller declares his Russia report did not exonerate Trump WASHINGTON (AP) — Special counsel Robert Mueller said Wednesday that charging President Donald Trump with a crime was “not an option” because of federal rules, but he used his first public remarks on the Russia investigation to emphasize that he did not exonerate the president.https://apnews.com/article/94323cfc164c4759ba6bf84ad2a46203 To me, the Russia thing was left more in limbo. No charges but no exonaration either. Why do you say debunked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 I'm sure anyone who cares about Hunter Biden having his taxes investigated for Chinese business links is just as interested in the $200000 Trump paid in taxes to China from an undisclosed bank account... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Really? Care to throw out an example or two? The NYPost story referenced in the tweet directly above that line is a great place to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 The big Hunter Biden story just before the election that got 'censored' (the one in the New York Post) was the one where it was claimed Joe Biden had abused his position and wielded US foreign policy power to help out Hunter Biden and Burisma. The story that Rudy Giuliani was hawking around using screengrab of an email for evidence that not even Fox News would touch (i thought Rudy had promised more smoking gun emails about Joe Biden from that laptop?). Pretty sure Republicans investigated the Burisma thing and found no corruption. It wasn't buried, it was just immediately seen as garbage. Hunter Biden's business dealings and tax issues are another thing, but google '10 held by H for the big guy?' and you get loads of articles from before the election by the 'MSM' about those emails, it wasn't exactly being suppressed. Not a surprise that Greenwald has gone off one one again with his condescending, sanctimonious attitude - of course he alone knows the real truth, everyone else is either an ignorant fool or part of the MSM/Deep State/Liberal Elite. He resigned (threw his toys out the pram) at the Intercept because he was asked to re-edit his article back to covering what he had originally agreed to write about (how the media hasn't covered Biden as critically as Trump), instead of basically repeating the highly dubious claim of the New York Post. He wasn't exactly being censored - they just asked him to focus on exactly what he complains about. I think he turned up on Fox News later that evening banging on about how the CIA is conspiring with the liberal left to overthrow Trump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, AXD said: Mueller declares his Russia report did not exonerate Trump WASHINGTON (AP) — Special counsel Robert Mueller said Wednesday that charging President Donald Trump with a crime was “not an option” because of federal rules, but he used his first public remarks on the Russia investigation to emphasize that he did not exonerate the president.https://apnews.com/article/94323cfc164c4759ba6bf84ad2a46203 To me, the Russia thing was left more in limbo. No charges but no exonaration either. Why do you say debunked? Ok, but this is a little too close to the argumentative tactic the religious use when claiming the existence of a single specific god. Once the claim is made, I can do whatever I damn well please, but I can't definitively prove that the specific god does not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, AXD said: Mueller declares his Russia report did not exonerate Trump WASHINGTON (AP) — Special counsel Robert Mueller said Wednesday that charging President Donald Trump with a crime was “not an option” because of federal rules, but he used his first public remarks on the Russia investigation to emphasize that he did not exonerate the president.https://apnews.com/article/94323cfc164c4759ba6bf84ad2a46203 To me, the Russia thing was left more in limbo. No charges but no exonaration either. Why do you say debunked? e.g., the Steele dossier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, villakram said: The NYPost story referenced in the tweet directly above that line is a great place to start. An alt-right version of Twitter was started because a year and a half after it was created, a newspaper outlet chose not to print a potentially libellous story about the son of a senator? Have you really thought this through properly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, andym said: The big Hunter Biden story just before the election that got 'censored' (the one in the New York Post) was the one where it was claimed Joe Biden had abused his position and wielded US foreign policy power to help out Hunter Biden and Burisma. The story that Rudy Giuliani was hawking around using screengrab of an email for evidence that not even Fox News would touch (i thought Rudy had promised more smoking gun emails about Joe Biden from that laptop?). Pretty sure Republicans investigated the Burisma thing and found no corruption. It wasn't buried, it was just immediately seen as garbage. Hunter Biden's business dealings and tax issues are another thing, but google '10 held by H for the big guy?' and you get loads of articles from before the election by the 'MSM' about those emails, it wasn't exactly being suppressed. Not a surprise that Greenwald has gone off one one again with his condescending, sanctimonious attitude - of course he alone knows the real truth, everyone else is either an ignorant fool or part of the MSM/Deep State/Liberal Elite. He resigned (threw his toys out the pram) at the Intercept because he was asked to re-edit his article back to covering what he had originally agreed to write about (how the media hasn't covered Biden as critically as Trump), instead of basically repeating the highly dubious claim of the New York Post. He wasn't exactly being censored - they just asked him to focus on exactly what he complains about. I think he turned up on Fox News later that evening banging on about how the CIA is conspiring with the liberal left to overthrow Trump. Dubios how? No primary source has come out and denied the veracity of the material. One can argue about the ethics of releasing private material, but this story was censored by twitter and widely suppressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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