snowychap Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 "My touch, my feel, that's what I do." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 2 hours ago, snowychap said: "My touch, my feel, that's what I do." He’s gonna grab Kim Jong-un by the p***y isn’t he? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted June 10, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 10, 2018 The was an interesting Twitter thread the other day that claimed to understand Trump and his approach to 'deals'. I can't find the thread now, but basically it posited that Trump views everything in terms of winners and losers, and he believes this to the extent that only he can win in anything, or he loses. This means as a negotiator, he's useless. He doesn't believe in win win deals, he assumes that any deal your opponent agrees to is one they are getting one over you on, that any terms offered to him are ripping him off, and anything that benefits the other is a loss. Basically it suggests he deals like a conman. I'm not sure it's quite this black and white, but I think there's something to it. So far his actions on negotiations and discussions seems to have had a habit of him setting his position and rejecting everything. And also may explain why he views every deal the US holds as a bad one (probably in concert with the fact he clearly despises Obama and wants to rip up everything with his name on). All in all, he's just a complete word removed, of course 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Breaking news banner on the Beeb popped up - 'The G7 summit ends in disarray after US President Donald Trump retracts his endorsement of a joint final statement.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 So so mature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted June 10, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: So so mature And his base will eat it up as he's defending 'Murica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted June 10, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 10, 2018 Unbelievably he is now at an 85% approval rating amongst the Republican Party. It truly is Trump's party now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Well damn, I don't know. I'm not an economist, perhaps there is a chance this could help some of the industries that he believes he is protecting. It does seem crazy to treat your neighbours and allies with such contempt. To openly accuse on of your closest allies of lying is extraordinary. Trump may think that he is being the big apprentice boss man again, but one day he may want something from his allies. I wonder how getting Mexico to pay for that wall is going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 As a JLR employee it’s a worrying statement about “automobiles”. Brexit is gonna **** us, and then if we’re taxed heavily in the US it’ll screw that market up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheAuthority Posted June 10, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 10, 2018 Very good twitter thread about what Trumpism is and why it's pointless trying to argue policy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 1 hour ago, TheAuthority said: Very good twitter thread about what Trumpism is and why it's pointless trying to argue policy. You could replace Trump with Corbyn in that tweet tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 10, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: You could replace Trump with Corbyn in that tweet tbf You really couldn't. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted June 10, 2018 Moderator Share Posted June 10, 2018 17 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: You could replace Trump with Corbyn in that tweet tbf Almost the opposite is truer I'd say - people will live with the slightly dishevelled, not quite slick Corbyn politician in order to support the policies. The last month of Trump has been very interesting - corporate America moving from a 'we'll make some rules, and those of us in the club will all make money' attitude of the last thirty years to a new 'the big lion eats first and the rest of you will have what you're given' approach. The US no longer wishes to share anything with its dependents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted June 10, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: You could replace Trump with Corbyn in that tweet tbf 6 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Almost the opposite is truer I'd say - people will live with the slightly dishevelled, not quite slick Corbyn politician in order to support the policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 This guy seems to be driving the trade policy these days: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted June 10, 2018 Moderator Share Posted June 10, 2018 The language has changed - "any foreign leader" - under Trump there's now no difference to the US between economic Canada and economic Nigeria - the US is pulling the leash and moving us to a model of global trade that serves America and that the rest of the world lives with or suffers. There's a huge aggression in the language used in piece and by Trump; it's all couched in "try it, I dare you" this isn't coercion, and it isn't alliance - it's an economic fascism driven by people like the Koch brothers, the US banking system and anyone that can put money in Republican pockets. No wonder his party support him, I bet right now they're being bombarded with offers of cash from US companies lining up to be next in line for the benefits of Trump's global trade controls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted June 10, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 10, 2018 The problem is it doesn't work. Trade is a 2 way street. Manipulating it is a careful balance, and Trump's sledgehammer approach will backfire. America can't live in a vacuum. It's trade partners won't roll over and accept whatever he wants. They'll find alternatives, or reciprocate his petulance. Which will hurt Americans as much as he aims to hurt his trade partners. It's happening already. He's a moron. He doesn't understand the way negotiation and deal making works. As said above, he sees things only in winners and losers, and that isn't how the world really works. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 And still kids are being ripped from their parents when they dare enter america looking for a better life. Hate this country so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted June 11, 2018 Moderator Share Posted June 11, 2018 12 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: under Trump there's now no difference to the US between economic Canada and economic Nigeria - the US is pulling the leash and moving us to a model of global trade that serves America and that the rest of the world lives with or suffers. The first part yes, the second part definitely no. By this I mean I can see that the US (Trump) is treating everyone (except Russia, N. Korea) the same - just as an economic entity. But it's absolutely not "serving America" it's doing the very opposite of that. A trade war, tariffs on EU steel - these things are bad for the US and the people who live there. Spiting your friends, breaking your promises - bad for the US. They become seen as untrustworthy (or more untrustworthy) and they will have no allies next time they want to take action on something. Ditching Pacific trade treaties, Climate change agreements, NAFTA, NATO etc. all leave the US far worse off. As Chindie implies he's just a massive throbber (I paraphrase). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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