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[lapal_fan]

40 minutes ago, VillaChris said:

Post on another forum and there's a few Portuguese posters on there (2 Sporting fans and a Porto fan). They all think Porto mugged Milan big time as Silva having got his big move is now more interested in Instagram posts. Hasn't done much for Portugal either.

As I said, I follow Milan. He's got 2 league goals in 20 appearances

Milan aren't the most expansive of teams, but they do create chances.. he just fluffs alot of them..

[Zatman]

1 hour ago, VillaChris said:

Post on another forum and there's a few Portuguese posters on there (2 Sporting fans and a Porto fan). They all think Porto mugged Milan big time as Silva having got his big move is now more interested in Instagram posts. Hasn't done much for Portugal either.

Has 11 in 20 for Portugal and all but 1 in competitive matches. Not great competition but a fine record. Harry Kane for example has 12 in 23 with a quarter in friendlies

[VillaChris]

1 hour ago, Zatman said:

Has 11 in 20 for Portugal and all but 1 in competitive matches. Not great competition but a fine record. Harry Kane for example has 12 in 23 with a quarter in friendlies

I watched a bit of him in the Confed cup. Think he only scored against New Zealand and missed a penalty in one of the other games.

Now I'm not saying he couldn't work out but I imagine it's being peddled on the Wolves forum as them signing Portugal's main forward and everyone going mad about it when it's not quite strictly true (he'll most likely be a sub at the world cup with them playing Ronaldo up there).

Wolves signing players like Sessegnon (if Fulham stay down), Kieron Tierney and Nabil Fekir would impress me a lot more. Probably all unrealistic but that's the standard if you want to be finishing in the top 6 ahead of Arsenal and Chelsea I reckon.

[Wolf man]

1 hour ago, VillaChris said:

I watched a bit of him in the Confed cup. Think he only scored against New Zealand and missed a penalty in one of the other games.

Now I'm not saying he couldn't work out but I imagine it's being peddled on the Wolves forum as them signing Portugal's main forward and everyone going mad about it when it's not quite strictly true (he'll most likely be a sub at the world cup with them playing Ronaldo up there).

Wolves signing players like Sessegnon (if Fulham stay down), Kieron Tierney and Nabil Fekir would impress me a lot more. Probably all unrealistic but that's the standard if you want to be finishing in the top 6 ahead of Arsenal and Chelsea I reckon.

Guedes , talisca , and silva are the names I have been told from a reliable source at the club . I think if wolves can pull off these type of signings , it could be a very exciting season indeed .

Fosun have stated , Finishing top 10 will be classed as a very good season,  but top 6 will be the aim and target . I'm sure most wolves Fans would be content  just not being relegation fodder next season while watching us play good football . 

[Demitri_C]

Well well haven't even kicked a ball in premier league and yet it begins. There is no way like I said the big clubs will allow Wolves to sign big players for peanuts like they have done in championship

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Wolves’ link with agent Jorge Mendes to face Premier League scrutiny

• Portuguese’s Molineux relationship will have to pass top-flight test
• FA and EFL fail to explain how arrangement complies with rules

David Conn

Tue 17 Apr 2018 18.52 BSTLast modified on Tue 17 Apr 2018 22.06 BST

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 The Wolves players celebrate promotion to the Premiership by launching Nuno Espírito Santo into the air. Photograph: Sam Bagnall - AMA/Getty Images

Wolves will have to satisfy the Premier League that their relationship with Jorge Mendes does not break league or FA rules, following a promotion secured with a manager and key players connected to the super agent.

The club’s ownership structure and details of Mendes’s influence must be fully disclosed during the regulatory process, which will begin shortly, of accepting Wolves into the top flight.

The FA rules on clubs’ relationships with agents, now called “intermediaries”, aimed at guarding against conflicts of interest, prohibit owners also owning a stake or having an interest in an agency. Similarly agents are prohibited from having “a material influence” over the affairs of a club.

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Last summer Wolves confirmed that the club’s owner since July 2016, the Chinese conglomerate Fosun, does own a stake in Mendes’s company, Gestifute. “Fosun have a percentage stake in the Gestifute company headed up by Jorge Mendes,” the club said.

That would appear to put Wolves in breach of the FA’s regulation, which states that: “[An] entity with an interest in a club shall not have any interest in the business or affairs of an intermediary or an intermediary’s organisation.”

The same rule prohibits an agent from having an interest in a club and defines “interest” as owning a 5% stake or more, or “being in a position or having any association that may enable the exercise of a material, financial, commercial, administrative, managerial or any other influence over the affairs of the club whether directly or indirectly and whether formally or informally”.

Having acquired the stake in Mendes’s agency in January 2016, the Chinese owner “canvassed advice” from Mendes before buying Wolves six months later, the club’s managing director, Laurie Dalrymple, said on Sky TV this week. Since the takeover Mendes has been involved in recruitment as the manager of his longstanding client Nuno Espírito Santo and Portuguese players who have transformed the quality of the Wolves squad.

Wolves’ ownership structure and Mendes’s activities on behalf of the club and its owner have been approved for two years since the takeover by the FA and EFL. Neither body has explained how Wolves’ arrangements comply with the rules but informed sources said the FA and EFL have been satisfied because the shareholding in Gestifute, reported to be 20%, is not directly owned by Fosun.

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 Jorge Mendes at Molineux where he has been described as ‘a close friend and an adviser’ to the Wolves chairman, Jeff Shi. Photograph: Malcolm Couzens/Getty Images

Public disclosures have stated the stake is owned by Shanghai Foyo, a company majority owned by the Fosun chairman, Guo Guangchang. Gestifute and Shanghai Foyo have since January 2016 been involved in a joint agency and marketing venture in Chinese football; the launch in Shanghai was attended by Mendes and officials from Benfica and Monaco, where Mendes has been highly influential.

The EFL has said it believes the rules have been complied with after Wolves gave undertakings and put “appropriate arrangements in place” following Fosun’s takeover from Steve Morgan in July 2016.

Wolves are compiling a further written explanation of Mendes’s position for the EFL, following complaints last month by the Leeds owner, Andrea Radrizzani. He tweeted during Leeds’ 3-0 defeat by Wolves: “Not legal and fair to let one team owned by a fund who has shares in the biggest players’ agency with evident benefits (top European clubs giving players with options to buy) … why the other 23 teams can’t have the same treatment?”

Radrizzani followed that with a letter to the FA, EFL and Premier League seeking clarification of Wolves’ relationship with Mendes. He told the BBC that when he was preparing to buy Leeds last year, he sold his shares in an agency, on advice from his lawyer: “I did because obviously there is a conflict of interest and I always pay attention to staying within the rules.”

Dalrymple confirmed this week that Mendes “has advised us on players we have taken but equally he has advised us on players we have not continued to take” and that: “There are some players that are connected with him who have come in and done a really good job for us.”

Wolves’ hunger to restore lost glory puts them back at the top table

Despite that acknowledgment, and widespread reporting that the standout signing from Porto, Rúben Neves, and other Portuguese recruits, are Mendes clients, neither Mendes nor Gestifute is declared as any of the players’ agents on the FA’s record of Wolves’ signings published this month.

Neves signed for Wolves for £15.8m in the summer; his agent, recorded in the FA’s document based on filings by Wolves, was another Portuguese intermediary, Jorge Pires Serralheiro. The same agent acted for other young Portuguese players signed by Wolves who are commonly cited as Mendes clients: Pedro Gonçalves, Rúben Vinagre and Boubacar Hanne. The midfielder Diogo Jota, 21, who has excelled on loan from Atlético Madrid, was represented by a Spanish agent, Carlos Bucero Gómez, according to the FA’s document.

Gestifute appears only once as an agent in the signings Wolves are recorded to have made last summer: another Gestifute director, Andy Quinn, an accountant based in Dublin, is stated to have acted for Wolves when Jota was signed.

Those signings followed the acquisitions the previous year of other Portuguese players, including Hélder Costa, Ivan Cavaleiro and João Teixeira, who were represented by a lawyer, Carlos Osório de Castro, or an agent, Valdir Cardoso, understood to do work for Gestifute.

A Wolves spokesman said neither Serralheiro nor Bucero was associated with Mendes or Gestifute. The club has consistently played down Mendes’s influence. Dalrymple, despite confirming the signing of players “connected” to Mendes, described him again this week as an adviser and close friend to the chairman, Jeff Shi, who “can use him as a sounding board”.

Wolves are “still completely comfortable with their position,” Dalrymple said, and will provide the same information to the Premier League as they have given to the EFL and FA.

“We don’t believe, and I don’t believe the authorities believe, that we’ve stepped outside the rules,” he said.

 

 

[Zatman]

Linked with Wilshere

[rjw63]

18 hours ago, lapal_fan said:

Please, please learn "their, there and they're" and "to, too and two".  It's happening far too often for it to be an innocent mistake - I get them wrong sometimes, but at least I try  

It'll help me out immensely.  

Wow, that was almost as bad as VT grammar nazi @rjw63 

[Hornso]

Saw a tweet today that linked Neves to Liverpool with Mendes lining up another Portuguese replacement.

[Demitri_C]

8 hours ago, Hornso said:

Saw a tweet today that linked Neves to Liverpool with Mendes lining up another Portuguese replacement.

I highly doubt they will find someone as good as Neves 

[Wolf man]

Neves will be at wolves for at least another season . Wolves and neves himself have already confirmed this  

[lapal_fan]

10 minutes ago, Wolf man said:

Neves will be at wolves for at least another season . Wolves and neves himself have already confirmed this  

ha, like what people say and do means anything these days. 

I dare say what you say is true, but I'm just saying, if something *better* comes along, he'll be off.

 

Also, Wolves fans on Villa social media pages.  It's not many (of course), but there are 10's of them, giving their opinions (and wind ups (top banter..)) on Villa social media posts. 

There was one about James Chester, saying "has there been a more solid CB this season?".  Obviously lots of Villa fans saying "yea, he's been good!" or "mr dependable" - all that jazz.  But there are LOADS of Wolves fans going "LOL WHAT ABOUT COADY OR BATTH OR BOADY!?!?!?" 

Honestly, who feels compelled enough about another teams social media posts to give their opinion on it?  No one gives a shit dickhead.  I bet there are Villa fans that do it on other teams' social media accounts too, which is embarrassing, frankly.

Football fans - generally retarded.   

[Wolf man]

7 minutes ago, lapal_fan said:

ha, like what people say and do means anything these days. 

I dare say what you say is true, but I'm just saying, if something *better* comes along, he'll be off.

 

Also, Wolves fans on Villa social media pages.  It's not many (of course), but there are 10's of them, giving their opinions (and wind ups (top banter..)) on Villa social media posts. 

There was one about James Chester, saying "has there been a more solid CB this season?".  Obviously lots of Villa fans saying "yea, he's been good!" or "mr dependable" - all that jazz.  But there are LOADS of Wolves fans going "LOL WHAT ABOUT COADY OR BATTH OR BOADY!?!?!?" 

Honestly, who feels compelled enough about another teams social media posts to give their opinion on it?  No one gives a shit dickhead.  I bet there are Villa fans that do it on other teams' social media accounts too, which is embarrassing, frankly.

Football fans - generally retarded.   

Somebody's on there period . Have no time for keyboard warriors , so behave  

[lapal_fan]

3 minutes ago, Wolf man said:

Somebody's on there period . Have no time for keyboard warriors , so behave  

For what it's worth, I'm agreeing with you.  I imagine he will stay.  BUT, don't take what people say in football too seriously. 

Not on my period (I'm due next week), I just think people on social media are **** idiots. 

[HanoiVillan]

13 minutes ago, lapal_fan said:

Not on my period (I'm due next week) 

Starting to get nervous about whether @Paddywhack's rubbers had perished in his wallet yet?

[Mark Albrighton]

36 minutes ago, Wolf man said:

Neves will be at wolves for at least another season . Wolves and neves himself have already confirmed this  

I think he will stay at Wolves for one more season, basically to see how they get on. There’s enough of a good feeling presently at the club that will keep him there.

But as @lapal_fan has pointed out, I suspect you’re in the wrong company on here if you take footballers’ comments at face value. Of course the Delph situation was different, but the same rules apply.

[Demitri_C]

56 minutes ago, Shropshire Lad said:

I think he will stay at Wolves for one more season, basically to see how they get on. There’s enough of a good feeling presently at the club that will keep him there.

But as @lapal_fan has pointed out, I suspect you’re in the wrong company on here if you take footballers’ comments at face value. Of course the Delph situation was different, but the same rules apply.

Imagine though if he flops in premier league and his value plummets. that would be absolutely hilarious as they could probably get around 40m for him now 

[Demitri_C]

Wolves fans on talksport complaining about being linked with wilshire and they want better. 

[villa4europe]

Yes and no...

In terms of his quality when he's firing he would be a good signing and his profile to a newly promoted club would be huge but im not sure I would want Wilshere either tbh, injury history, wage demands and he's a bit of a bell end, if I was a wolves fan I would want the owners agent mate to find me a better overall deal 

[Stevo985]

5 hours ago, lapal_fan said:

ha, like what people say and do means anything these days. 

I dare say what you say is true, but I'm just saying, if something *better* comes along, he'll be off.

 

Also, Wolves fans on Villa social media pages.  It's not many (of course), but there are 10's of them, giving their opinions (and wind ups (top banter..)) on Villa social media posts. 

There was one about James Chester, saying "has there been a more solid CB this season?".  Obviously lots of Villa fans saying "yea, he's been good!" or "mr dependable" - all that jazz.  But there are LOADS of Wolves fans going "LOL WHAT ABOUT COADY OR BATTH OR BOADY!?!?!?" 

Honestly, who feels compelled enough about another teams social media posts to give their opinion on it?  No one gives a shit dickhead.  I bet there are Villa fans that do it on other teams' social media accounts too, which is embarrassing, frankly.

Football fans - generally retarded.   

I think it's kind of sweet that so many Wolves fans think of us as rivals.

[Wolf man]

47 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

I think it's kind of sweet that so many Wolves fans think of us as rivals.

Wouldn't say we think are you are rivals , that is westbroms department.Wolves fans are more irritated about the fact that  Bruce and Keith decided to concern themself with how wolves went about running the club at an important time in the season,  when the pressure was on . Obviously  the fans had no control over this,  but when your CEO , manager and owner is taking it upon himself too use social media expressing there concerns , I guess you all have been tarred with the same the brush  ( sour grapes ) . Me personally hope you do make it up this season , as then it's one more midlands team in the top flight. If you don't make it up, I'm sure wolves fans as a whole won't be much concerned with you anymore as the season would have have passed , everything will have been forgotten and your relevance will no longer be acknowledged as you will be in a different division . Think I will leave commenting on your site at that  all the best