TrentVilla Posted August 3, 2015 Moderator Share Posted August 3, 2015 Even McLeish who paid all that money to sign him very publicly questioned his attitude during his season here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VILLAMARV Posted August 3, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted August 3, 2015 Jeez, not this again! If Sir Bobby Robson publicly questions your attitude that's good enough for me. I really am at a loss as to why there's anyone defending him. He has done NOTHING in his entire time here. Before anyone starts bibbing about a free kick against West Ham and nearly/not scoring against Newcastle once, It's not good enough. If that's good enough for you from a £10m player then great, but It aint good enough for my Villa. We've gotten more out of Bacuna in 2 years and I don't think there's anyone out there who think he's blessed with the same ability as Charlie. Weimann, who it could be argued kept Charlie out the team when he wasn't injured........ just shipped out for not being good enough. If you could clone those two you might just have a player but you wouldnt choose Andi's ability and Charlie's attitude and work rate for the petri dish would you? Lazy, Bad Attitude, Selfish. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 3, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 3, 2015 When Sherwood was picking him, most on VT were hailing N'Zogbia's performances as vital to our turnaround. Have those people now changed their minds or vanished? I wasn't. I think he was decent in 2 or 3 games. That's it. I don't hate the guy. I think hating him is over the top. But I do think he's a crap footballer and I wouldn't bat an eyelid if he was sold this summer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myko Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Neither was I. Just saying I find it odd how people blindly follow the current views of the manager, not defending N'Zogbia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I was very surprised he got a recall to be honest. I think it was more to do with the word fight than relegation. Sherwood probably thinks he could take Gil!! Charlie not so much The fact we stayed up means Tim did what was needed so theres not alot to be said by me as I got what I wanted, which was survival by any means. I accept it's going to be loads easier finding a new home for the wages of Tonev than it is for Nzogbia. But the time to leave is now even if we're paying 80% of his wages somewhere. The best thing about Sherwood (even if he is gone by Xmas!) is the dose of realism. He's reminded me it's just not about blindly hoping players like Charlie, Bent, Ireland et al suddenly turn up randomly and decide they want to play. We have been living in a deluded little bubble for too long where mediocrity has been rewarded and sometimes applauded. When Sherwood talks about the losing mentality he's talking about something thats filtered down to us aswell you know. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Richard Posted August 3, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted August 3, 2015 Will no one rid me of this turbulent prick 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 sorry mate, I was only sayin... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I ave no problem with Zog! I just don't think he is good enough! For me Grealish and Gil are better than him, so when factoring in his high wages it makes sense to move him on a fast as possible. Would need to replace him though, hopefully with an fine talent (not Townsend). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuleAthon Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 This is a man who has only ever, in his whole premier league career, played for a move or a contract. We need rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 He's gonna be here forever isn't he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 This is a man who has only ever, in his whole premier league career, played for a move or a contract. We need rid. Yes, yes he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 He's gonna be here forever isn't he Nah, don't forget the clock of hope http://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/20160701120000am/w4410/1/Until_we_get_N%27Zogbia_off_the_wage_bill 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 3, 2015 Moderator Share Posted August 3, 2015 Beaten to it with my own countdown clock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Well you brought it into the world. Tis a thing of beauty. I promise to take good care of her. But like every proud parent you're going to have to face up to the reality of spotty oiks like me turning up and having a go on it while your back is turned. Would it help if I told everyone what a nice clock you have? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I was very surprised he got a recall to be honest. I think it was more to do with the word fight than relegation. Sherwood probably thinks he could take Gil!! Charlie not so much The fact we stayed up means Tim did what was needed so theres not alot to be said by me as I got what I wanted, which was survival by any means. I accept it's going to be loads easier finding a new home for the wages of Tonev than it is for Nzogbia. But the time to leave is now even if we're paying 80% of his wages somewhere. The best thing about Sherwood (even if he is gone by Xmas!) is the dose of realism. He's reminded me it's just not about blindly hoping players like Charlie, Bent, Ireland et al suddenly turn up randomly and decide they want to play. We have been living in a deluded little bubble for too long where mediocrity has been rewarded and sometimes applauded. When Sherwood talks about the losing mentality he's talking about something thats filtered down to us aswell you know. That's a good post MARV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I was very surprised he got a recall to be honest. I think it was more to do with the word fight than relegation. Sherwood probably thinks he could take Gil!! Charlie not so much The fact we stayed up means Tim did what was needed so theres not alot to be said by me as I got what I wanted, which was survival by any means. I accept it's going to be loads easier finding a new home for the wages of Tonev than it is for Nzogbia. But the time to leave is now even if we're paying 80% of his wages somewhere. The best thing about Sherwood (even if he is gone by Xmas!) is the dose of realism. He's reminded me it's just not about blindly hoping players like Charlie, Bent, Ireland et al suddenly turn up randomly and decide they want to play. We have been living in a deluded little bubble for too long where mediocrity has been rewarded and sometimes applauded. When Sherwood talks about the losing mentality he's talking about something thats filtered down to us aswell you know. well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl the Pearl Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Now that Bent and Given are gone, he is officially our biggest waste of cash/space in the squad. Congrats Charlie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippers Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 You could argue that he was the biggest drain on resources before Bent and Given left. All bad deals for the club with hindsight but at least the latter 2 turned in some good performances and went someway to justifying their salaries. The same, sadly, cannot be set for Charlie. Wasted the ability he was given, and some may argue that wasn't much in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 surprised club havent done the Newcastle approach that forced him out. Hire Joe Kinnear and get him to call him insomnia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 4, 2015 Moderator Share Posted August 4, 2015 You could argue that he was the biggest drain on resources before Bent and Given left. All bad deals for the club with hindsight but at least the latter 2 turned in some good performances and went someway to justifying their salaries. The same, sadly, cannot be set for Charlie. Wasted the ability he was given, and some may argue that wasn't much in the first place. Two of them were bad deals at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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