Adam_ Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Just said on talk sport that PL has said vlaar won't play against shef utd as the arsenal game is far more important And he's right. Indeed he is although I'm old fashioned and look forward to the 3rd round of the FA cup. It's a shame we didn't pick up more points against Sunderland and Palace at home and Fulham and Stoke away as we'd be in a far healthier position in the league and therefore maybe more focussed on the FA cup. I've seen us win the League, the Euorpean cup and the League Cup and would love to add the FA cup to that list. I should hope that even a "weaker" Villa side should be able to beat a team that is struggling in League 1!!! Although last season I was thinking Villas first team should be beating a League 2 team but ya know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Another game that shows the complete lack of quality in the squad without important players like vlaar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 What happened to Baker before kick off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Baker had hamstring issue. Seems it was the same reason didn't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrees Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Another game that shows the complete lack of quality in the squad without important players like vlaar. Vlaar isn't quality, it's just that everything is relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Another game that shows the complete lack of quality in the squad without important players like vlaar. Vlaar isn't quality, it's just that everything is relative. Hardly. Fitness aside Vlaar would walk into most Premier League sides. Just because most of the players around him in defence are shit doesn't mean he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrees Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Another game that shows the complete lack of quality in the squad without important players like vlaar. Vlaar isn't quality, it's just that everything is relative. Hardly. Fitness aside Vlaar would walk into most Premier League sides. Just because most of the players around him in defence are shit doesn't mean he is. I didn't say that he was shit, I just disputed that he was 'quality'. Vlaar is a very average lower Premier League/Championship defender. I like the guy, but can only call it as it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Another game that shows the complete lack of quality in the squad without important players like vlaar. Vlaar isn't quality, it's just that everything is relative. Hardly. Fitness aside Vlaar would walk into most Premier League sides. Just because most of the players around him in defence are shit doesn't mean he is. I didn't say that he was shit, I just disputed that he was 'quality'. Vlaar is a very average lower Premier League/Championship defender. I like the guy, but can only call it as it is. I never said you said that, but he's clearly a lot better than "average lower Premier League/Championship". He'd get in to most sides in this league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas_Mike Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Well for 2 years in a row as soon as he is out of the team we become a pile of shit. Don't know what that means other than thank god we got 70 minutes out of him at Sunderland and can't wait for him to return. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Has anyone got stats for Villa with Ron, and Villa without Ron this season? Should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted January 4, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted January 4, 2014 A page or two back would be a good guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Has anyone got stats for Villa with Ron, and Villa without Ron this season? Should be interesting. I posted a table a few pages back about this. It only took into account league games and the result was what we already knew - we score more, concede less, win more and get more points when Vlaar is in the side. Don't think it's a coincidence either that Vlaar was absent both today and against Bradford and Millwall last year. We're rudderless without him. He's more important than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Another game that shows the complete lack of quality in the squad without important players like vlaar. Vlaar isn't quality, it's just that everything is relative. Agree, when i say quality i'm comparing him to the majority of the current squad who can't do most of the basic things correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Has anyone got stats for Villa with Ron, and Villa without Ron this season? Should be interesting. I posted a table a few pages back about this. It only took into account league games and the result was what we already knew - we score more, concede less, win more and get more points when Vlaar is in the side. Don't think it's a coincidence either that Vlaar was absent both today and against Bradford and Millwall last year. We're rudderless without him. He's more important than anyone else. Pretty much agree with all that. Liked the table- so we have only won 2 games in the league without Vlaar? Bloody hell, thats terrible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Has anyone got stats for Villa with Ron, and Villa without Ron this season? Should be interesting. I posted a table a few pages back about this. It only took into account league games and the result was what we already knew - we score more, concede less, win more and get more points when Vlaar is in the side. Don't think it's a coincidence either that Vlaar was absent both today and against Bradford and Millwall last year. We're rudderless without him. He's more important than anyone else. Pretty much agree with all that. Liked the table- so we have only won 2 games in the league without Vlaar? Bloody hell, thats terrible! Yeah, and both of them were back in late 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Getting a cruciate injury is pure bad luck. However, once you suffer one, you're more likely to re tear it. He probably won't, but there's a higher chance he will than the average player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Most prem sides would miss a full Dutch international if he was out through injury, especially because the second first choice cb is also out for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Getting a cruciate injury is pure bad luck.However, once you suffer one, you're more likely to re tear it. He probably won't, but there's a higher chance he will than the average player.Thats bollocks.Plenty of players who have done their cruciate and gone on to have perfectly decent careers. If they didn't there would be a mass of retired players.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Getting a cruciate injury is pure bad luck. However, once you suffer one, you're more likely to re tear it. He probably won't, but there's a higher chance he will than the average player. Thats bollocks. Plenty of players who have done their cruciate and gone on to have perfectly decent careers. If they didn't there would be a mass of retired players.. Sadly it's not bollocks. I've done mine twice and the surgeon who performed the second op confirmed a new ACL has an average lifespan of 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Getting a cruciate injury is pure bad luck. However, once you suffer one, you're more likely to re tear it. He probably won't, but there's a higher chance he will than the average player. Thats bollocks. Plenty of players who have done their cruciate and gone on to have perfectly decent careers. If they didn't there would be a mass of retired players.. Sadly it's not bollocks. I've done mine twice and the surgeon who performed the second op confirmed a new ACL has an average lifespan of 10 years. No... actually it is bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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